Odd powder experience at gun store....?

Snake88

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(This is for people out in the Vancouver Lower Mainland area for those that may not know)

I went into International Shooting Supplies in Surrey. I finally bought some reloading dies for my 270win rifle (WooHoo - finally). I was asking about bullets and powders getting an idea of costs and what not. I ask the guy on the other end of the counter if there is some IMR 4831 in an 8 pound jug. The guy on the other side says that they do not sell 8 pound jugs, only 1 pound canisters. I asked why, and he said that reloading powder is now regulated and my name and address needs to be written down while purchasing any number amounts of 1 pound canisters of powder. I was a little bit surprised and I wondering if other CGN'ers have had any experiences similar to mine. I am assuming that this may just be a store policy, but it could actually be imposed by government.

I have tried to search through stickies and a couple of subsections within the forums here, but I did not come across anything regarding quantity restrictions for gunshops to sell reloading powder.

The guys at International are pretty good and I like the service that they have, so this is not about slagging the store.

Any info about this would be helpful in clearing up confusion here. Any other sources in the Vancouver area that sell 8 pound jugs of powders (doesn't matter what kind - any really)? Would it be better to purchase online even considering the shipping as well as the Hazmat fee of $15 per whatever unit of measurement?

Not trying to stir any hornet's nest here, but comments and input are very much welcomed.

Snake88
 
Had a government guy come out here a few months ago. He gave a non-information seminar concerning new explosives regs. All I got from the seminar was some opinion from the attending crowd and a sore arse from the folding chair but this may have been a precursor to the sort of BS you're experiencing.
 
Ask them if u can buy 8 x 1 pounders and ask for a keg price then..lol My guess is powder availability is why they only sell 1 pounders. As for writing your name down that sounds abit off.
 
"...why they only sell 1 pounders..." Retailers can only hold so much powder without having a powder magazine. Kegs are usually a special order anyway.
"...imposed by government..." More about civil servants making law by regulation. Harper's bunch have done nothing to stop it either.
You don't want to buy powder in bulk until you have worked up a load.
 
General explosive requirements have been around for years alot longer then I have been around... they are very basic.
18+
Keep a record of who it was sold too.

Alot of stores now just ask to see a pal you flash it to the sales guy he knows everything is ok... plus the goverment gave you a pal so if there would ever be any issues with you doing something strange with your gun powder they would have decent defence in a court...

http://www.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/mms-smm/expl-expl/lic-lic-eng.htm
 
I you are looking for 8lb at a time it would probably pay to call upo Higginson's or similar.

Places that I've been buying powder want name and address in a book but no ID or PAL checks. Taking a quick scan up the page usually shows a couple along the lines of J. Rambo, Elvis, John Wayne or the like.
 
name and address

ya I've had to do the name and address thing on a couple of diffrent occasions . as a former post said call someone else and see if you can get a better price on a keg . they know you have guns already so it's not like your commiting some criminal act purchaceing powder and primers . at least not yet . and never so I hope .
 
italian down town there sister store has been doing that forever. when i asked i was told vancouver pd insists. i don't think they want to make waves. the security door wasn't there idea either.
 
Yes, it is a requirement to record your info, but it is very seldom done.
One of the items taht the new proposals that sought to address was this.
What was supposed to change was this recording of info would be done away with, instead the store only needed to SEE your PAL.
However, the changes got shelved, and I'm not going to start another pissing match by explaining why.
 
You are joking.

It would be funny if I was but am not. A propellant magazine license (and thus a magazine that has to conform to the Act, be inspected etc.) is required if a retailer has more than 12kg of powder (thus ~3 8lbs containers).

However, ask yourself if any of the regs make sense, i.e.
  • how many liters of gasoline in your garage...
  • containers powder is shipped and displayed in is insufficient for storage once home...

For your reference
http://www.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/mms-smm/expl-expl/pdf/fm10a-eng.pdf
 
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