Ok amateur ballisticians and expert range estimators, what's wrong here...

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I'm talking to a co-worker today who was telling me his story about his hunt last week. Him and his buddy spot a deer at a little over 700 yards. He knows that was the range for a fact...

Now my guy says he lines up on the deer with his .30-06 shooting factory loaded 180 grain soft points. He fires his first shot and knows he shot over the deers back. His partner was spotting for him on this 700+ yard deer. He reloads and settles the crosshair right on top of the deers back and fires again. Down goes the deer, so they go after it quite proud of the 700+ yard shot. When they arrive, the deer is gone nowhere to be seen. They searched all over but had no clue where it ended up.

So now I ask this fellow how high his rifle shoots at 100 yards, and he tells me about 3 inches....

Now, figure out whats wrong with this story. :D :D :D
 
i want some of those bullets think of all the time and money i have wasted in loading stuff to shoot when i could have been blasting away at 700 with just a little hold over!!!!!!!
 
WOW!! I have ALL the answers!

1. First shot was a clear miss. He aimed nearly straight up. This first shot, as all GOOD hunters know is just to warm up the barrel, clean it of debris etc. :)LOL

2. At 700+ yards, even the best 30/06 will drop about 150".
So, if he aimed at the top of the back, the bullet just "grazed", the GIANT deer's underbelly (which explains why the deer dropped in shock, it was lightly grazed, before running). So, for a deer that has a back to underbelly size of 150", he must have stood, maybe 240" tall. Quite a deer. Anyone know what a buck that size would score. ;) LOL

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I'm talking to a co-worker today who was telling me his story about his hunt last week. Him and his buddy spot a deer at a little over 700 yards. He knows that was the range for a fact...

Now my guy says he lines up on the deer with his .30-06 shooting factory loaded 180 grain soft points. He fires his first shot and knows he shot over the deers back. His partner was spotting for him on this 700+ yard deer. He reloads and settles the crosshair right on top of the deers back and fires again. Down goes the deer, so they go after it quite proud of the 700+ yard shot. When they arrive, the deer is gone nowhere to be seen. They searched all over but had no clue where it ended up.

So now I ask this fellow how high his rifle shoots at 100 yards, and he tells me about 3 inches....

Now, figure out whats wrong with this story. :D :D :D
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His mom came & made him turn off cabelas big buck video game before he could recouver the animal cause he hadn't finished his homework?
 
We who hunt and shoot a lot often have to bite our tongue when subjected to this brand of barnyard effluent. :bangHead: The guy has no idea how far 700 yards is, and likely knows even less about where his gun shoots anywhere outside of 250 yards. I recollect an occasion, about 20 years ago, when a customer of mine [I was an automotive repair technician for 25 years] informed me that he had shot his moose on the weekend just past. Conversation went like this:
Me: "Great, L., where did you get it at?"
L: "Up in the area around ******* lake. I had to take a long shot, but made my only shot count."
Me: " Oh, how far away was the moose, L?"
L: " He was 850 yards"
Me: " Wow!, that is a long shot. What rifle were you using?"
L: "My 300 Weatherby Magnum, with 180 grain Sierras."
Me: " So L., How are you sighted in with your Weatherby?"
L: " I am sighted in to hit dead on at 300 yards."
Me: "So tell me, how much did you hold over that moose to kill it at 850 yards?"
L: Oh, I didn't hold over at all! You know, the 300 Weatherby doesn't drop more than an inch or so between 300 and 900 yards." :eek:
Me: [very much tongue in cheek] "That is a flat shooting rifle you have there L." :rolleyes: :D
I have learned over the years that it is beneath my dignity to argue with these a**hats about range and ballistics. What they know of these subjects could be safely stored in a hazelnut shell and have room to spare. I just laugh silently to myself and walk away. Regards, Eagleye.
 
You guys just don't seem to appreciate the great abilities of the 30-06!
3 inches high at 100 yards, that would be about dead on at 600, then drop a bit for the 700 yard deer. And the deer was even standing, that's hardly fair to the deer.
We like to get the deer bouncing across the field, if the range is only 700 yards!
 
The guy that comes to mind for me owns a 338 WinMag, and thinks it performs miracles.
I guess someone said something like "it really shines at longer distances" becuase he seems to think it increases in velocity, or begins to rise at over 300 yards.
Kind of pointless to try and correct him, he has his mind made up.

Oh yeah, I had a 458 WinMag, and he thought his 338 was larger bore diameter!
 
Is this a trick question?

The trouble with this story is that the parties in question can't estimate range worth a damn. Then, when they spread their gun-counter brand of full-of-#### sauce all over it, it becomes what you just related to us.
 
What's wrong with his story is that the alarm clock went off before they found the huge buck that was 7x7, and beat the B & C world record non typical by 218pts. And they got 800 pounds of meat... dressed. They are making the sausage this weekend. :D
 
The only trouble with the story is... Why would you try a 700 yard shot on a game animal when they had no way to see where it went down and confirm that it is down.
Poor Practice. Or if there is a positive side, pure Horsepuckey.

There are people who with the right equipment and situation can make an ethical 700 yard shot. I have the right equipment and have never found the right situatioin to try to kill an animal at that distance.

I think that they even tried, is what is wrong with this story.
 
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