OK, You asked for it ... What are the most overrated RIFLE cartridges?

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I was really torn about buying a 6.5 or a 308 with elk and sheep hunting in mind recently and went 308.

I was going to make a “6.5 creedmoor for elk?” thread but didn’t want to go there.

Maybe it is the millennial 270 and I should get on board
 
Thats easy! (And it’s probably already been said but I’m to lazy to read all the replies). ANY MAGNUM! You simply don’t need them for hunting. HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean that they’re bad cartridges by any means, I know I own a few!
 
The Kurgan said:
Quarter mile using 6.5 Creedmoor on a large ungulate? Was it a bang flop?
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More Pussy plinker result

330 yards. First shot with the 129gr Nosler ABLR behind the shoulder, exited. Second shot quartering away, into lungs and through the far side shoulder, bullet was recovered under the hide.

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Looks like personal disdain based on emotion is the basis for many of the comments here.

Case in point ...... I personally have no interest in any Weatherby cartridge. Does that make them over rated to me? Yes, but the next guy could be quite happy with one for the rest of his days. We both can't be right. ;)
 
Oh and the 270 Winchester, never been a fan cp::stirthepot2:
However, I own one of these too... but I going to have it rebarreled!
 
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SuperCub said:
Looks like personal disdain based on emotion is the basis for many of the comments here.

Case in point ...... I personally have no interest in any Weatherby cartridge. Does that make them over rated to me? Yes, but the next guy could be quite happy with one for the rest of his days. We both can't be right. ;)
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High recoil cartridges are overrated except for well trained rifleman!
That’s why moderate recoil cartridges like 243 Win, 7mm-08, 6.5 CM and 270 Win (even 30–30) are so effective in the hands of the average hunter.
 
The iconic 270 Winchester will carry the same velocity 50 yards further than the pussy plinker 6.5
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Sounds a lot like the 30-06 and that new fangled 308.

We need a “ pussy plinkers and polar bears” thread
 
Killing game isn’t hard. Some sure think it is for some reason. Very baffling. Especially on a hunting forum. It’s almost like nobody has tried it.
 
broadhead67 said:
Nailed it

Like most things in life it’s all situational , which action for the 45/70 - weak , moderate or strong . 45/70 on the Prairies ? 45/70 walking on a BC trail by a river full of Salmon - yes pls .
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Speaking of bear defense ))

Does anyone known how many bears are shot in SELF DEFENSE per year and how many FAILED to stop the bear because they had "too weak" of cartridge?
 
For north American big game hunting, I'd say
Anything smaller in diameter than 30 caliber, or larger than 35 caliber.

Many of them are just "boutique" calibers really.

Completely unnecessary, and in many cases less effective for most of the species that many of us will ever hunt compared to the so called "boring" calibers like good old .308, 30-06, and 300WM.

Some of them are too expensive to shoot anyway.
 
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.280 AI... I've studied the numbers and looked at the load data and I can't convince myself that it's enough of an improvement over the .270, .30/06 or even the 7x57 to be worth the bother.
 
Biologist said:
Regarding .270 Win: Berger now offers a .270 Caliber 170 Grain "Extreme Outer Limits (EOL) Elite Hunter" bullet. I used Berger's online twist rate calculator: It needs a 1:8 twist to stabilize it. My .270 Win is a 1:10 twist which will not stabilize it, and I am guessing the throat would be too short anyways for this new long bullet, which is a shame.

Maybe the .270 Win could be the next big thing again with a custom 1:8 twist barrel and a chamber reamer made for the new longer bullets?....Point being that sometimes the limitations of a cartridge is based on its marketing history. With today's lens (hindsight) it seems somewhat bizarre to me that the 30-06 was made for longer heavier bullets up to 220gr (good), but the .270 with the same case was limited to about 150 gr. bullets (bad). Why at the time did they not make .270 Win with a 1:8 twist to be able to handle more diversity of longer heavier bullets with that huge case and powder volume?

I own a .260 Rem Tikka and it came from the factory in a 1:8 twist, which is a big improvement from the original 1:9 twist that the .260 Rem was originally marketed with.

Over or under-rated cartridges may have a new life with a few updated tweaks to chamber lengths and barrel twists?
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If remchester had offered faster twists 50 years ago, a bunch of overhyped modern cartridges would never have been invented.
 
9.3mauser said:
.280 AI... I've studied the numbers and looked at the load data and I can't convince myself that it's enough of an improvement over the .270, .30/06 or even the 7x57 to be worth the bother.
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(Hunting related) find that to be be the case with most calibers, yeah something may squeak out a tad more performance on paper. Reality though is you won't notice.

I have a small gripe against the 6.5 cr. Because it is so similar in performance to my 7mm-08 yet is is way more popular with better ammo availably. (*muttered under the breath* Though if I didn't already have and love my 7mm-08 I'd probably buy a 6.5 cr, sshh)
 
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