OK, You asked for it ... What are the most overrated RIFLE cartridges?

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Sir Plus said:
If remchester had offered faster twists 50 years ago, a bunch of overhyped modern cartridges would never have been invented.
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New cartridges would have created nonetheless since they are a major driver of new hunting rifles sales (something 20 000 more rifles sold for each).

There are some many 7mm and 30 cal cartridges that it’s simply ridiculous!
I can name around 10 30 cal magnum cartridges!!!
 
AlexF said:
New cartridges would have created nonetheless since they are a major driver of new hunting rifles sales (something 20 000 more rifles sold for each).

There are some many 7mm and 30 cal cartridges that it’s simply ridiculous!
I can name around 10 30 cal magnum cartridges!!!
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The 300 H&H was the very first 30 caliber magnum invented...........there was no reason to invent other magnums of this caliber.
 
The 300H&H is the single best solution to turn a 30-06 into something worthwhile.

If it were all about practical, you'd be shooting a 300 Savage in a rifle made by same.

R.
 
chuck nelson said:
What practical advantage does the 300 H&H offer over the 30-06?
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Faster, flatter, more down-range energy and less holdover, that's what all magnums have over standard cartridges. Besides practicality, there is the history, nostalgia and the long ###y cartridge it is!
 
track said:
Faster, flatter, more down-range energy and less holdover, that's what all magnums have over standard cartridges. Besides practicality, there is the history, nostalgia and the long ###y cartridge it is!
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.35 Whelen enters the chat
 
I don't understand why there are so many that are against new cartridges and marketing. If the rifle manufacturers are making money, it's a good thing...... unless some think it's a better thing to go BELLY UP! jmo
 
pete dobinson said:
I don't understand why there are so many that are against new cartridges and marketing. If the rifle manufacturers are making money, it's a good thing...... unless some think it's a better thing to go BELLY UP! jmo
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What they say: "6.5CM is magic, never seen before performance".
Reality: 260 Rem is essentially the same, with MOST MARGINAL differences relevant for reloading.

Decade ago: they were saying "260 rem is magic never seen before amazing performance"
Reality: 260 is essentially a worse version of 7mm-08 in a short action for all practical uses. 260 is also a worse version of 6.5x55 swede in a long action.

2 Decades ago: the "magic story" was all about short magnums. "Amazing performance in a short action"
Reality: Significantly worse barrel life, most inefficient usage of powder, more expensive all around than previous long action standard cartridges

3 Decades ago: "308 is magic military sniper tech, so many quality sniper factory ammo"
Reality: worse than any long action older generation for half an inch overall length on a 40+ inch rifle.

It is called deception. The industry has this cartridge cancer for a century. This is not a progress, this is hot air sold over and over again to each new generation of people coming into the sport. It is 2021! Buy our brand new 6.8 Westerner by Winchester, amazing performance!. Oh wait, it is 270 Win short magnum with tiny tiny tiny bit shorter brass. Amazing groundbreaking performance!

PS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga726pMA6Fc
"there was never been an animal on earth which was killed by a 'ballistic coefficient'"
 
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pete dobinson said:
I don't understand why there are so many that are against new cartridges and marketing. If the rifle manufacturers are making money, it's a good thing...... unless some think it's a better thing to go BELLY UP! jmo
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Jim, I condone all new cartridges, and I'm sure most people do. However, do not give a new cartridge euphoria embellishment with equal or less merit than it's predecessor's.
 
owlowl said:
2 Decades ago: the "magic story" was all about short magnums. "Amazing performance in a short action"
Reality: Significantly worse barrel life, most inefficient usage of powder, more expensive all around than previous long action standard cartridges
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Care to provide some actual facts to go along with these statements? Especially the first two Laugh2

track said:
The 300 H&H is faster by 200 to 250 fps over the 30-06 with similar recoil ............... Gotcha back!
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140 fps in an apples to apples scenario
 
owlowl said:
What they say: "6.5CM is magic, never seen before performance".
Reality: 260 Rem is essentially the same, with MOST MARGINAL differences relevant for reloading.

Decade ago: they were saying "260 rem is magic never seen before amazing performance"
Reality: 260 is essentially a worse version of 7mm-08 in a short action for all practical uses. 260 is also a worse version of 6.5x55 swede in a long action.

2 Decades ago: the "magic story" was all about short magnums. "Amazing performance in a short action"
Reality: Significantly worse barrel life, most inefficient usage of powder, more expensive all around than previous long action standard cartridges

3 Decades ago: "308 is magic military sniper tech, so many quality sniper factory ammo"
Reality: worse than any long action older generation for half an inch overall length on a 40+ inch rifle.

It is called deception. The industry has this cartridge cancer for a century. This is not a progress, this is hot air sold over and over again to each new generation of people coming into the sport. It is 2021! Buy our brand new 6.8 Westerner by Winchester, amazing performance!. Oh wait, it is 270 Win short magnum with tiny tiny tiny bit shorter brass. Amazing groundbreaking performance!

PS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga726pMA6Fc
"there was never been an animal on earth which was killed by a 'ballistic coefficient'"
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There’s 2 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. I feel ripped off.
 
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