Old cooey scope mounting

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Hey guys, I did a little internet research and I learned some things about the question here. I still need to ask -

On this old winchester cooey 600, which requires a side mount for scope rings, should I purchase a short or a long side mount?

I'll be sticking a full-size 1" scope on here for no particular reason other than that's what I have to play with.

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Does anyone know where I can order one.. or have one of their own for sale? Cabela's appears to have the long ones on backorder. None on e-bay. Trying to avoid shipping it across the border.


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Im just in the process of doing this.. You need to get the weaver #2 side mount base.. Then the scope mount rail which you have pictured there.. I purchased the side mount base of ebay. Looking for the rail as well.

Cabelas canada has the high short mount you have pictured its 31.99. Comes to 50 with shipping im trying to find one locally.
 
Im just in the process of doing this.. You need to get the weaver #2 side mount base.. Then the scope mount rail which you have pictured there.. I purchased the side mount base of ebay. Looking for the rail as well.

Cabelas canada has the high short mount you have pictured its 31.99. Comes to 50 with shipping im trying to find one locally.
The base part number is Weaver #48402.
 
I picked up an original at a gun show a long time ago.The guy said good luck with it,it's a 7/8 inch ring but for $5 who can complain?
A couple row's over I saw a funny looking scope so I asked about it. Same thing,"it's an old 7/8th's scope, goodluck finding a scopemount for it". So I spend $7 for it.
I then took the mount out of my pocket and they fit together like a charm!Showed both the seller's and got a smile from one and a dirty look from the other!
 
The Weaver mount fits a number of different rifle from that period, including Savages, Winchesters and of course the Cooey. If you don't find one around you, give Phil a call at P & D, they keep those in stock as a rule! Depending on the scope you want to use, you will need the long or short mount.

Scott
 
If you are looking to go original, the one piece side mounts are on ebay quite often. You can get them for the 3/4" scope or 7/8" tube. I got a weaver mount for the 7/8" scope off there awhile ago still in the package. Then I found a 7/8" tubed scope on ebay still in the box.
 
I think Niceguy and I must be cooey twins or something. I bought the no2 side mount off e-bay as well. It's actually mounted to the rifle in the picture!

And as one of you mentioned, the short or long depends on the scope I want to use.. well, I'm asking here which goes with which? I want to use the bushnell pictured and I'm thinking I want the long mount if I'm going to have any adjustability for eye relief. I don't want to spend more than I've spent on the rifle and scope combined to get the wrong mount :)
 
Does it really matter? the turret, and transitions to the larger diameter will get in the way with either. I guess it would depend on your scope and how much 1" diameter free length you have. I have never seen one of the mounts in person. You need measurements I guess. . . Depends on what scope you are using and the distance between the rings I would imagine. Sorry I can't help anymore.

Edit: seems you would have more 'front and back' room to play with if you got a scope with a front end that is all 1" outside diameter, in which case I would go with the longer one.

Either way, the rings are fixed in place, no way to adjust the distance between them. . . . .
 
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I set one of these up for a friend a few years ago, with the short mount and a cheap Tasco 3x-9x 40mm. The short mount fit fine. I think the long mount would have set it too far forward. BTW, all of the current production mounts are 1 " rings.
 
I think I'll try a short and report back here to let you all know.

My friend has a mag fed .22 and to be honest.. over the first 13 shots I far outpace him. That break to swap mags kills his firing rate. After that of course it's like feeding a muzzle loader but still.. I regret nothing!

The main reason for all this is that somewhere along the line my dad lost the serrated wedge which sets the elevation for the iron sights. Rather than spend money on iron sights, I might as well spend money on a scope.
 
I'd be interested to know how this works out, and which pieces are being used. I had an old 600 given to me by my stepfather; works great but it too is missing the elevator ramp (currently has a cutoff nail in there); a fellow CGN'er was able to get me an original side mount with an old Weaver scope, but the scope, she ain't what she used to be. It's not 1", so if there's a better solution for a 1" tube, that'd be great! Or, if anyone knows where to find a really good 7/8" tube scope...
 
Well I can hardly believe it.. my local gas n guns had 4 of these side rails on the shelf!

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A reasonable price too.. if anyone stumbles across this thread, Perkins Gas N Guns in Pembroke sold me a weaver short side mount 49350 for $35.

I think it will work out well. I seem to get decent eye relief, although since I'm a tall guy, I have the scope as far forward as possible and could still use more. That isn't going to change unless I add about 2" to the stock, and that isn't happening.

I plan to get some shooting done tomorrow so I'll report back with a range card and impressions, I hope :)

[edit]I have to mention, I found the cooey bolt tiny and dainty to begin with and now it is almost untouchable. I see a custom lever in my future.
 
Thanks - it's my dad's first gun. The trigger guard is cracked at the rear screw. There are lots of little problems but solving the sight was the worst one.

For NorthernCX -

You need a weaver no.2 side mount base, a weaver 49350 side mount scope ring and a cheap 1" scope. I scoured the EE for a used Bushnell under $50 with 3-9x. IMHO you need a longer bolt handle too!
 
Regarding the bolt handle being too akward with a scope:

I recently restored my Cooey Repeater, I had to get a replacment breech for her.

The action was really, really stiff. One of the things you can try is to experiment with the amount of slack or clearance between the bottom of the outer magazine tube and the take down bolt, all it takes is a bit of fit and try with the help of a small crescent wrench.

Also, if you feel comfortable with a set of needle files, you can very very carefully mind you, file the square shoulder where the bolt lug cams into place, until you have a smooth working action.

THE DANGER: removing too much so that the bolt lug does not have much of a flat face to rest on.

I am glad I did the action tuning, the action is now: 'slicker than owl snot'

Advice for filing on the receiver: GO SLOW.
 
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When I take it back apart for cleaning I'll take a look at the areas you mentioned - thanks :) The action is already fairly smooth from what I am sure are thousands and thousands of rounds fired.

I had the rifle at the range today and was pleasantly surprised. I could operate the action even with gloves on. With the scope mounted it was extraordinarily accurate, holes inside holes. I still need to figure out adjustments for different ranges. I never have as much time as I'd like and it's a bit miserable lying on snow on top of gravel!
I did have a couple empty casings ping off the scope and land back in the breech, but they were easily shaken out and the bolt has such a firm grip on the new round that it didn't interfere with chambering.

I would not hesitate to recommend this scope mounting option for old cooeys.
 
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