Olympic Arms announces NY sales policy

It's good to see some of these companies telling the State to p#ss off, but it's a very long-term strategy. If they want results sooner than later, the ammunition companies need to cut of the State. Guns aren't much use without ammo.
 
Unlike Canada where we have very few police agencies, the US has thousands.

There are probably more law enforcement agencies in NY State than all of Canada. You can bet a number of them buy Olympic Arms.
 
It's not the guns that should stop selling, although I do believe that it is the right thing to do as a protest, it's the bullet manufacturers that should stop selling to Gov. agencies....I wonder how Bloombergs body guards will fell if they pull their sidearms out and find them empty; or how quickly to cops will revolt if they have no bullets to shoot with.
 
tiriaq said:
I wonder how many businesses could do this without cutting their own throats?
Take Glock for example. They sell a lot of product to both gov't and private buyers.
Could they affort to alienate either?
If the gov't legislates away the civilian market, institutional sales will be the only ones left.
When the British owners (at the time) of S&W made the deal with the Clinton White House to start implementing Slick Willie's gun control sales restrictions, the loss of civilian sales just about put them out of business.
The US civilian market will punish businesses, and has a long memory.
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Your right. People have a long memory about being betrayed. I for one was pleasantly surprised when the new management at Ruger stepped forward with such a strong message of resistance against renewed attacks on the 2nd. Ammendment.
 
Farmboy said:
Unlike Canada where we have very few police agencies, the US has thousands.

There are probably more law enforcement agencies in NY State than all of Canada. You can bet a number of them buy Olympic Arms.
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I seriously doubt that there are many, if any, significant agencies that use Olympic Arms AR's. Look at the long term stranglehold that companies like S&W and Colt have in the LE market. You can be sure that any self respecting police agency isn't going to choose an OLY over a Colt or S&W based AR for the little difference in price there would be.

If Glock, Colt, or even S&W come to the party and support this measure then I'll give it some validity. Otherwise, it's a publicity stunt.
 
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2bad4u2 said:
I seriously doubt that there are many, if any, significant agencies that use Olympic Arms AR's. Look at the long term stranglehold that companies like S&W and Colt have in the LE market. You can be sure that any self respecting police agency isn't going to choose an OLY over a Colt or S&W based AR for the little difference in price there would be.
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Man, you would be surprised.

I would bet just about any organ of which I have two that there is AT LEAST one LE agency in NY using Olympic.

You would not believe the purchases made by some of the Podunk towns.
 
DANCESWITHEMPTIES said:
Got respect manufactures that take this kind of stance. There own interests are at stake with the passing of this kind of legislation, but the spin off reaction taken by these companies still may have a positive effect for the average Joe down there. It will only work if all the manufactures create an association to combat this type of legislation collectively.

Maybe your next AR should be an Olympic?
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that right there is a very important point. if ordinary citizens are not allowed to have guns, magazines and ammunition, then cops can't have them either.
 
I seriously doubt that there are many, if any, significant agencies that use Olympic Arms AR's. Look at the long term stranglehold that companies like S&W and Colt have in the LE market. You can be sure that any self respecting police agency isn't going to choose an OLY over a Colt or S&W based AR for the little difference in price there would be.
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I would have seriously doubted that DND buys airsoft gear, but they do.

It's not about "self respect", it's about lack of info, lack of knowledge, lack of budget, opportunities presented, personal adgendas etc. etc.
 
STI did this several years ago to Kalifornia - no sales of any kind, be it agency, or individual officer - even though their guns were not targeted by the existing legislation. As far as agencies buying Oly's goes, it wouldn't surprise me in the least, remember for many years LAPD SWAT was issued 1911's that were seized from criminals and reworked prior to issue.
 
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TV-PressPass said:
I wonder how many AR15s they sold to NY government agencies in 2011 . . .
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Bingo.


My guess is zero. This is more of a publicity stunt IMO. Nothing brave about it, just false bravado to drum up sales. They make it sound like they are sacrificing profits for the greater good by cutting off department purchases for the average Joe gun rights.
 
tiriaq said:
I wonder how many businesses could do this without cutting their own throats?
Take Glock for example. They sell a lot of product to both gov't and private buyers.
Could they affort to alienate either?
If the gov't legislates away the civilian market, institutional sales will be the only ones left.
When the British owners (at the time) of S&W made the deal with the Clinton White House to start implementing Slick Willie's gun control sales restrictions, the loss of civilian sales just about put them out of business.
The US civilian market will punish businesses, and has a long memory.
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Good point.

I would say no, Glock certainly couldn't afford to lose either, but particularly its gov't and agency contracts. I would put good money on Glock making more money on gov't and agency contracts than from recreational shooters/ civilian sales. For glock and other contract holders it is way beyond just gun sales, its supplies, support, parts and training that they profit from as well. I doubt glock would be stopping sales in NY state, then again, they sure have a lot more to lose than OA.

As well, you have an excellent example of what happens when a gun company makes the mistake of siding with the governement. S&W did go bankrupt (or recievership) IIRC over that fiasco, and in the aftermath an American firm acquired the company and set about repairing the corporate image. Everything S&W is today can be attributed to that one massive F**K up. I think it was a good thing as Smith and Wesson has once again become an innovator and a voice of support in the industry. Their new products (M&P, the E-series 1911's and revolvers) are outstanding value. As well, they made smart investments like co-ordinating with Magpul and surefire (IE: Magpul Dynamic Pistol video)

I think the ploys of gun vendors to be pro 2A and ban sales to specific states is largely a marketing effort and if they are banning sales entirely they are only going to alienate gun owners who are already bearing the brunt of bad legislation. If they are boycotting sales to state agencies that is a different story, but I still think their efforts would be better spent convincing politicians to ammend these stupid laws rather than stripping police agencies of their tools. I mean the police don't create the laws, the brain dead mouth breathers in the government do. Spend money, rally the citizens and push hard for change.
 
Cojones! In a world that's slowly losing itself because it's all about money grabbing these days, it's nice to see a company stand up and say hey the bucks stops here.
 
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