#### On Closing?

[mmattockx]

Any COC seems to have a way smoother action IMO.

It's the one finger bolt lift that makes it seem like butter.

Thanks to all for their insight and comments.

Mark

 

[H4831]

What hasn't been said yet, is that military rifles were made coc in order to have no extra pressure on opening the bolt. Thus, if the case was sticking they had full power on the bolt handle to cam it loose.
After WW1 Remington made a lot of their left over Pattern of 1917 rifles into sporters, calling them the Remington 30 Express. The first thing they did was change the bolt over to coo.
If there is a civilian bolt action rifle that cocks on closing, I am not aware of it. The rifle manufacturers should know what shooters want.

 

[gordonlbyrne]

all the sivi rifles that i own #### on closing and all others that i have seen except mausers

 

[purple]

What hasn't been said yet, is that military rifles were made coc in order to have no extra pressure on opening the bolt. Thus, if the case was sticking they had full power on the bolt handle to cam it loose.
After WW1 Remington made a lot of their left over Pattern of 1917 rifles into sporters, calling them the Remington 30 Express. The first thing they did was change the bolt over to coo.
If there is a civilian bolt action rifle that cocks on closing, I am not aware of it. The rifle manufacturers should know what shooters want.

Excellent point. The COC is a military advantage when firing hot and fouled rifles with dirty ammo in combat conditions. All mechanical effort is applied to extracting the cartridge case, rather than doing that plus cocking the rifle at the same time.This and a somewhat sloppy chamber(which plays hell with a reloader's case life) was one of the great advantages of the Lee Enfields.

 

[cyclone]

What hasn't been said yet, is that military rifles were made coc in order to have no extra pressure on opening the bolt. Thus, if the case was sticking they had full power on the bolt handle to cam it loose.

Every time I see war movies with German troops hammering at their Mauser bolts to loosen 'em , that's the first thing of which I think....

Hahahaha....

In the magazine articles, those first million rifles were mentioned as seldom as possible. Instead, the Lee-Enfield was dumped on for its 'weak' action and the rear-mounted locking lugs which made accuracy impossible. It made an entire generation of Canadians grow up despising the rifles which their own fathers and grandfathers had fought with. This attitude survives today: just listen to how people STILL denigrate the 'lousy old .303'.

And yet any place where semi-automatic rifles or pistols are refused to citizens (I'm talking about you Australia ! ) , the Enfield is still rightly areciated & revered....