One Gun Solution for Ontario Deer Hunters
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maple_leaf_eh
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True indeed, and for centrefire there are some zones with calibre restrictions. Your 30-06 for instance would be too powerful (as if?) in more densely populated areas in Southwest Ontario. I think a .270 is the limit, and someone no doubt will correct me.
Just to take this question to its logical end, you could probably use a Black Powder primitive firearm in two deer seasons than one with a centrefire. I've always thought one of the inline models that uses a shotgun primer versus a percussion cap, would be a good choice.
Easy, Ruger Frontier rifle in .308 with forward mounted scope.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/77_062405/
http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/77_062405/
I will be using my new Sako .308 this fall with the VXIII 2.5-8. It will do for the hydro lines as well as the thick stuff.
If you want to stick with your present rifle, dump the 3-9x and go with a 2-7x or 1-4x. They give a better FOV for the brush. Or keep the 3-9x and use the quick detach mounts to remove the scope for brush hunting.
If you want to stick with your present rifle, dump the 3-9x and go with a 2-7x or 1-4x. They give a better FOV for the brush. Or keep the 3-9x and use the quick detach mounts to remove the scope for brush hunting.
Not sure why I am even ALLOWING myself to get drawn into this one, must be the four days I just spent at my wife's annual family rebellion, and my brain is not yet functioning normally again.......
I do own and have owned a powerful number of shootin' irons. My "go-to" deer rifle for my Ontario deer hunting is a Browning Model 81 BLR with a Burris Signature Series 1.5 -6X scope on it. I leave the scope on 1.5X most of the time, since most shots are not long - but the scope gives me a much better sight picture for these old eyes, and especially in poorer light conditions. I did take a deer with that rifle and scope at "about" 400 yards, with witnesses but no laser range finder, so the gun and scope are capable of longer shots as well. And everybody has to get lucky once in a while......
In short, I do not favour a 3-9X scope for most Ontario hunting, I do not favour semi-autos for a bunch of reasons including WEIGHT but also reliability, and I do not under any circumstances recommend see-through scope rings, no matter what the old(er) farts say.
But BTW I "never" take just one gun to the deer woods, and my main backup gun is an old Remington 870 Wingmaster 12 ga 2 3/4" chamber smoothbore slug gun. That old gal has killed about forty deers for me, so when it's meat on the table that is important, well guess what gun goes for a walk!
Doug
I do own and have owned a powerful number of shootin' irons. My "go-to" deer rifle for my Ontario deer hunting is a Browning Model 81 BLR with a Burris Signature Series 1.5 -6X scope on it. I leave the scope on 1.5X most of the time, since most shots are not long - but the scope gives me a much better sight picture for these old eyes, and especially in poorer light conditions. I did take a deer with that rifle and scope at "about" 400 yards, with witnesses but no laser range finder, so the gun and scope are capable of longer shots as well. And everybody has to get lucky once in a while......
In short, I do not favour a 3-9X scope for most Ontario hunting, I do not favour semi-autos for a bunch of reasons including WEIGHT but also reliability, and I do not under any circumstances recommend see-through scope rings, no matter what the old(er) farts say.
But BTW I "never" take just one gun to the deer woods, and my main backup gun is an old Remington 870 Wingmaster 12 ga 2 3/4" chamber smoothbore slug gun. That old gal has killed about forty deers for me, so when it's meat on the table that is important, well guess what gun goes for a walk!
Doug
maple_leaf_eh
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
.... That old gal has killed about forty deers for me, so when it's meat on the table that is important, well guess what gun goes for a walk!
Doug
Deers or Deer, Beers or Beer, Mooses or Moose? Always wanted to ask another smartalec that question. Doug ...?
Swarovski makes a 1.7x10 in their new z6 line,but I was not aware that zeiss had a comparable scope.
http://www.swarovskioptik.at/index....45a3b83c382334.64403456&produktname=Z6 / Z6i#
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it seems to me it would be hard to beat a blr or a savage 99 or a rem 7 in 358 win. 1-4 or a 1.5-5 leupold in weaver mounts so you can whip the scope off for the irons if you want. good for everything else in na too.
it seems to me it would be hard to beat a blr or a savage 99 or a rem 7 in 358 win. 1-4 or a 1.5-5 leupold in weaver mounts so you can whip the scope off for the irons if you want. good for everything else in na too.
Not sure why I am even ALLOWING myself to get drawn into this one, must be the four days I just spent at my wife's annual family rebellion, and my brain is not yet functioning normally again.......
I do own and have owned a powerful number of shootin' irons. My "go-to" deer rifle for my Ontario deer hunting is a Browning Model 81 BLR with a Burris Signature Series 1.5 -6X scope on it. I leave the scope on 1.5X most of the time, since most shots are not long - but the scope gives me a much better sight picture for these old eyes, and especially in poorer light conditions. I did take a deer with that rifle and scope at "about" 400 yards, with witnesses but no laser range finder, so the gun and scope are capable of longer shots as well. And everybody has to get lucky once in a while......
In short, I do not favour a 3-9X scope for most Ontario hunting, I do not favour semi-autos for a bunch of reasons including WEIGHT but also reliability, and I do not under any circumstances recommend see-through scope rings, no matter what the old(er) farts say.
Doug
Hey Doug argree with ya on scope choice
But my 100Win is lighter than yer 81 Blrr
But your getting outta line when you put down those See-Thru's Rings
Having fought with a variety of scope mounts attempting to get a set high enough my stiff neck will let me look thru the scope
I finally gave in last year & installed a set of those See Thru's 
So far they seem to be about the perfect height for a low comb 100 & my neck, but I might as well take of those "extra fine" Winny irons as I can't see them anyway back to senior.......
If I had to use a semi it would be a Model 100, and indeed I have hunted with one. They are a nice, light, fast-pointing rifle, and have a detachable magazine, which I favour greatly in a hunting gun. But I do prefer my BLR.
You are using see-throughs to correct a problem, in about the same way as one might be using extra-high rings. My dislike of see-throughs in MOST applications is that they put the scope too high, and one has to take one's cheek off the stock to get a correct sight picture. Once the cheek is off the stock, two things happen fairly predictably:
1. Accuracy suffers; and
2. The stock whacks the cheek when the gun is fired.
What you are saying of course is exactly the point: the gun and its sighting system have to work for the person carrying the gun. That might be open irons for some folks, peep sights for others, low-mounted scopes for "most" I think, and of course high-mounted scopes, tip-off scopes, etc etc etc. I think where you guys hunt that you could use a nail silver soldered on to the end of your barrel as a sight, since most shots are at deer just beyond bayonet range, going 90 mph through the thick stuff with dogs right up their butts!
If I had to use a semi it would be a Model 100, and indeed I have hunted with one.
They are a nice, light, fast-pointing rifle, and have a detachable magazine, which I favour greatly in a hunting gun. But I do prefer my BLR. You are using see-throughs to correct a problem, in about the same way as one might be using extra-high rings. My dislike of see-throughs in MOST applications is that they put the scope too high, and one has to take one's cheek off the stock to get a correct sight picture. Once the cheek is off the stock, two things happen fairly predictably:
1. Accuracy suffers; and
2. The stock whacks the cheek when the gun is fired.
What you are saying of course is exactly the point: the gun and its sighting system have to work for the person carrying the gun. That might be open irons for some folks, peep sights for others, low-mounted scopes for "most" I think, and of course high-mounted scopes, tip-off scopes, etc etc etc. I think where you guys hunt that you could use a nail silver soldered on to the end of your barrel as a sight, since most shots are at deer just beyond bayonet range, going 90 mph through the thick stuff with dogs right up their butts!
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I have a couple of sets of see through mounts. I just can't get used to them. If I'm using a scope, then scope it will be, if I'm using irons, then so be it.
I like the idea of having a scope backup, but the rings just are not comfortable.
I have a tip off mount on my 88, but I'll have to change the sights to use the irons. The mount obscures them.
I like the idea of having a scope backup, but the rings just are not comfortable.
I have a tip off mount on my 88, but I'll have to change the sights to use the irons. The mount obscures them.
