ontario bear hunters beware

Grock-co said:
Exactly 200 meters is not that far if you can not walk that far, I think hunting is not for you, unless you are one of the guys that shots, kills and walks away from it, leaving it to rot.
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This comment is somewhere between rude and someone who is young, self centred and inexperienced. I could tramp through bush all day, without issue, loved it, I am comfortable in the bush. I was raised in Northern Ont. we played in the bush as kids. Then in my mid fifties I got viral pneumonia. The virus settled in my heart and greatly weakened it permanently. It's called "dilated cardio myopathy", go a head and google it, then let me know if you want to donate your heart to me as a heart transplant is the only procedure that will help, so I will trade you my heart for yours. You see now I can't walk 200 yds. through the bush. My heart just can't pump the blood needed for tramping through the bush. But maybe when this heart is in your chest it will be a different story, and you can walk back in the bush many times to set up and service a bear bait. Shoot the bear and drag him out.
You see things in life change, and not the way you want them to. So your have to learn to adapt. I am adapting to my disability. Just like one of my best friends fell out of a tree stand a couple years before I got sick. I helped carry him out of the bush to the medevac helicopter. Broke his back in two places. He has many complications. When he is well enough to hunt he has the MNR exemption to hunt and shoot from an ATV. He also is learning to adapt to a situation he never wanted to be in. By the way the safety chain on his stand broke, he was on the ground before he new it.
According to you we should not be hunting but playing board games and watching game shows. Sorry not happening! So I wish you a long healthy life, and may you never get viral pneumonia or fall out of a tree stand. And you will let me know when you want to take me up on my offer to trade hearts.
 
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russm86 said:
You guys are just lucky to be allowed to bait at all. Here in BC baiting for bears is not allowed what so ever. So I wouldn't whine too much about the smaller details.
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Try hunting bear in Ontario without baiting them.. Totally different terrain where in a lot of places baiting is a necessity to even see one let alone make an ethical shot.
 
I suspect that the spring bear hunt was reinstated (ok, as a 5 year pilot) because as much as the Lib's here hate the idea it was starting to 1) cost them for all the nuisance bear calls 2) the lack of dollars the hunt brought in from licences (a little), American's coming up to hunt (big tourist bucks) and 3) the stomping down on the Moose hunt (which compounded the lack of bucks to outfitters).

So they reinstated because of "empty pockets", not because of any science or pressure from hunting/outfitting groups.

But the only way they could sell it to the cappuccino drinking masses that vote for the likes of Olivia Chow they had to make it look like they were dealing with a "safety issue" - namely bear/human encounters.

So all these "new regulations" are there to show:

See - we are making hunters draw bears AWAY from houses, buildings, roads and anywhere else where they could potentially come in contact with humans.

So no "science" - "social agenda" is what forms the rules NOW...
 
Exemptions from the rule could be extended to seniors, the disabled and the infirm.
In some jurisdictions the disabled are allowed to shoot from a stationary motor vehicle.
As a reasonably healthy female I personally have no problem with the legally prescribed distance.
 
Gunslingr said:
^ or we could not add needless rules a top needless rules just because…
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An even better plan.

I'm quite frankly surprised the anti gun Wynne government reopened the spring black bear season at all.

The SSS (Shoot, Shovel, Shut up) methodology was unofficially in use long before the spring bb season reopened and the nuisance bears were being shot anyway.

Friend of ours who farms went to the MNR satellite office to complain about a persistant nuisance bear and was handed a pamphlet about dealing with black bears. He wasn't sure whether he was supposed to read the brochure himself or read it to the bear.
Regardless the pita bear was conspicuous by its absence in his area not long after.
Coincidence? ... who knows. ;)
 
mrgoat said:
This comment is somewhere between rude and someone who is young, self centred and inexperienced. I could tramp through bush all day, without issue, loved it, I am comfortable in the bush. I was raised in Northern Ont. we played in the bush as kids. Then in my mid fifties I got viral pneumonia. The virus settled in my heart and greatly weakened it permanently. It's called "dilated cardio myopathy", go a head and google it, then let me know if you want to donate your heart to me as a heart transplant is the only procedure that will help, so I will trade you my heart for yours. You see now I can't walk 200 yds. through the bush. My heart just can't pump the blood needed for tramping through the bush. But maybe when this heart is in your chest it will be a different story, and you can walk back in the bush many times to set up and service a bear bait. Shoot the bear and drag him out.
You see things in life change, and not the way you want them to. So your have to learn to adapt. I am adapting to my disability. Just like one of my best friends fell out of a tree stand a couple years before I got sick. I helped carry him out of the bush to the medevac helicopter. Broke his back in two places. He has many complications. When he is well enough to hunt he has the MNR exemption to hunt and shoot from an ATV. He also is learning to adapt to a situation he never wanted to be in. By the way the safety chain on his stand broke, he was on the ground before he new it.
According to you we should not be hunting but playing board games and watching game shows. Sorry not happening! So I wish you a long healthy life, and may you never get viral pneumonia or fall out of a tree stand. And you will let me know when you want to take me up on my offer to trade hearts.
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Sorry to hear of your condition. I hunt with my father and another older retired guy. They aren't in their prime and I have a shoulder injury and an unreliable knee. Not a good position when there's no cell reception if I have to drag one of them out

This new regulation makes it harder for some to go hunting
 
waltman said:
No apologies needed, we're used to ridiculous MNR regulations here. They're usually the kind based on politics instead of science.
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Political based policies for sure and don't forget emotion.
Liberals never let facts get in the way.
Mike Harris the so called neo conservative didn't close the spring bb season because of ideology.
He just plain sold us out and his decision was based on cowardice and he caved under threat from a well heeled do gooder activist organization.
Political based decision making; that's why government wild game resource management works so well.
The moose population has been decimated so low that the outfitters camps aren't getting any moose tags in my area of Ontario with less than 30 adult moose tags being issued for one of the largest wmus in the province.
A "for real" wildlife biologist who advocated policies based on reality would have his butt fired before his first day was over working for the MNR.
 
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