Ontario Ground Blind Hunters - update post #32

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On the Environmental Bill of Rights site is the following proposal:

The current regulation is silent with respect to the requirements for hunters who may hunt big game using ground blinds. These blinds are essentially a form of pop-up tent which completely encloses a hunter. This results in rendering the safety provisions contained in the hunter orange clothing regulation virtually ineffective in these situations. This can be perceived as a significant safety issue. The proposed amendment would require hunters using these ground blinds in circumstances where the hunter orange provisions would apply to appropriately use hunter orange material on the exterior of these blinds

If you dont agree with this (and I dont), go on line and submit your comments before November 8.

I am aware of no commercial constructed orange "add ons" for the blinds, nor of any incidents with these blinds. I am not intetested in pinning 400 sq inches of fabric to my blinds.

Link to EBR site and comment form:

http://www.ebr.gov.on.ca/ERS-WEB-Ex...ticeId=MTEwODAw&statusId=MTY2MzA3&language=en
 
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Sorry to burst your bubble all you pro Orange guys butt....
While marketing plays a big part of cammo sales (real tree vs mossy oak etc) so does patterning. Ie hot pink real tree is as effective as regular real tree.
My best friends grandpa was colour blind and a hunter. He said he could just as easily pick out a man in Blaze Orange/Dayglo Orange as he could a guy in a black tux. But a guy wearing Blaze Orange cammo blended in like the rest of cammo does.
Deer see much the same way. No colours but their patterning and movement vision is clear. Nothing in nature is one solid colour. Everything is patterned or shaded.
A man sized solid block of colour might get away with it but a tent sized object? What next; tree stands,hunting cabins?!
I say if we must then we put a Blaze Orange X on our blinds and be done.
 
Is it too much to expect folks to actually identify an object before they point their firearm at it? thereby rendering this blaze orange vs camo debate moot? (Sorry, silly rhetorical question, I know .. never mind).
 
stupid restrictions,

In Alberta many years ago there was a requirment to wear orange. We got rid of it and can wear whatever we like. (I like wool army pants and a cammo jacket myself) And guess what... there was not a sudden spike in hunters shooting each other.

I don't care what deer and moose can see or not see, I'm all about looking good in the woods while hunting.... oh wait... :D well I'm all about wearing whatever I like and not having someone who has never hunted that is sitting in an office dictate to me what I have to wear.
 
People do have to realize, that in Ontario, there are quite a few more people out hunting on Crown Land, than most other provinces, I mean this is my assumption, but I think there are more people fighting for less hunting land in Ontario, compared to other provinces.

It is fairly conceivable, that someone could be in a ground blind, and there is a deer between it and another hunter 150 yards away. The camo is pretty good, that a hunter might not recognize it as such and shoot at a deer/moose, etc. and the backstop could be a another hunter in a well camoed ground blind! Is it that much to ask to stick a piece of orange on the blind? So someone could recognize it, and not make a grave decision. I am all for personal responsibility, but in this day and age, with litigation being what it is, families of dead people sue. So yes, you might make the decision to not have a piece of orange on the blind, but what happens when you get killed, and your daughter decides to sue the ass off a hunter that took a shot, missed the deer, and hit a you in a ground blind that he/she could not see because it was so well hidden. The deer/moose can't see colour, so what is the big deal?

Like I said, maybe this doesn't apply to different provinces, but Ontario can be pretty crowded with hunters vying for the same space!
 
It does makes a bit of sense I guess, but the odds of something going wrong are pretty minimal.

Just remember, if you're going to send in feedback for this keep it professorial. You never know who reads it, and how fast they'll delete it.
 
Safety isn't on their mind on this reg... All they wanna do with this law is strip us of one more petty right we have. I'm sick and tired of being pc about this...
 
If hunter-orange is that effective against accidental shootings...why isn't it law that EVERYONE in the bush (hikers, birdwatchers, etc) wear it?
 
so a nice ATV orange flag should be set atop a ground blind??? who thinks up this crap?

Are people really that stupid that they dont know what they are shooting at before they pull the trigger?
 
Jeeze 400sq inches thats a lot! That said I'm not really that opposed to the idea if theres going to be other hunters around. I have confidence that 99.9% will not mistake me as a deer...but I have less confidence that upon seeing a deer a hunter will take the time to see that a well camo'd me is not behind the deer. A nice orange hat could go a long way in that scenario. Although I'm happy that BC leaves it up to my discretion.
 
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