Opinion on the Valmet Hunter

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Does anybody have one and if you do what is your experience shooting with it? Is it worth the price you paid for it? How does it shoot and what is maintenance like? It's the only AK variant legal in Canada apparently.
 
Valmets are definitely the nicest of the AK variants IMHO. I have a Hunter and an M78, and the quality and reliability are great on both. Maintenance is, per any AK, very easy.
 
CobraGT said:
Valmets are definitely the nicest of the AK variants IMHO. I have a Hunter and an M78, and the quality and reliability are great on both. Maintenance is, per any AK, very easy.
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Are both models pricey and hard to find? How much does ammo generally run for it?
 
Xcalibur34 said:
Are both models pricey and hard to find? How much does ammo generally run for it?
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The M78 is more expensive (almost double) than the regular hunter. There's a hunter in .308 on irunguns right now for 1900$USD. One store in Canada is selling an M78 in 5.56 for 11.5k$ (don't do it... it's not a 11.5k rifle)

Ammo is either .308 or .223... not more expensive than 'others'. (they exist in .243 and 30-06 also)


IF you see one in 7.62x39 for less than 5 grand, take it now! :)

Also, note that it's legal in Canada as a non-restricted.

Lastly, if you really want an M78, don't buy a hunter and convert it. Save your $$ and hassles for finding parts and wait for an m78 to show up.
 
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tharkhold said:
The M78 is more expensive (almost double) than the regular hunter. There's a hunter in .308 on irunguns right now for 1900$USD. One store in Canada is selling an M78 in 5.56 for 11.5k$ (don't do it... it's not a 11.5k rifle)

Ammo is either .308 or .223... not more expensive than 'others'.


IF you see one in 7.62x39 for less than 5 grand, take it now! :)

Also, note that it's legal in Canada as a non-restricted.

Lastly, if you really want an M78, don't buy a hunter and convert it. Save your $$ and hassles for finding parts and wait for an m78 to show up.
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What's the difference between the M78 and the Regular? The M78 is an upgraded version I guess.
 
Xcalibur34 said:
What's the difference between the M78 and the Regular? The M78 is an upgraded version I guess.
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The M78:

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Hunter (sporterized version of an AK platform - you can convert it to an M78/76/Galil though):

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Also, have a read at this:

https://www.hoplitetactical.com/art...y-for-canadians-to-own-a-non-restricted-ak-47
 
Valmets are the best implementation of the AK action out there. The largest benefit is that it's prescribed Non-Restricted by OIC so it's least likely to be reclassified.

.223 version can be easily converted to 7.62x39 and will take regular (cheap) AK mags

Worth the price? It's not like there are other options for a true AK action in Canada. Maintenance is almost as easy as on an AK - you do have to undo some screws to take the top cover off, but it's easy from there. You can also replace the top cover with a Galil or military type Valmet so that you don't have to deal with the screws.

It shoots as well as any semi-auto can be expected to. Definitely better than Russian style AKs - the gas tube is a looser fit at the gas block so it does not affect your barrel as it heats up.
 
KotKotofeich said:
Valmets are the best implementation of the AK action out there. The largest benefit is that it's prescribed Non-Restricted by OIC so it's least likely to be reclassified.

.223 version can be easily converted to 7.62x39 and will take regular (cheap) AK mags

Worth the price? It's not like there are other options for a true AK action in Canada. Maintenance is almost as easy as on an AK - you do have to undo some screws to take the top cover off, but it's easy from there. You can also replace the top cover with a Galil or military type Valmet so that you don't have to deal with the screws.

It shoots as well as any semi-auto can be expected to. Definitely better than Russian style AKs - the gas tube is a looser fit at the gas block so it does not affect your barrel as it heats up.
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Hey,

Do you have an updated link, or what's required to change a 5.56 to 7.62x39? (Guessing the bolt and barrel at the very least?)

Cheers
 
Here, this picture might help understand a little better:

You can see that when you strip a Hunter, you can fit AK variant furniture on it, and make it like a galil, M78, M76.

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M78:
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tharkhold said:
Hey,

Do you have an updated link, or what's required to change a 5.56 to 7.62x39? (Guessing the bolt and barrel at the very least?)

Cheers
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No link, just experience :)

Just a bolt and a barrel. You can reuse a gasblock or get a new/used one

Take an AK 7.62x39 bolt - modify the cutout for the receiver rail to clear the valmet receiver (once you have both bolts and look at the boltface you will see what needs to be done straight away)
Install and headspace a new barrel
If you are using an AK gasblock, you will need to deal with the holder for the cleaning rod - it will not clear the original handguard (new handguard? cut the holder? etc).

Done. Other changes (stock, pistol grip, handguard, muzzle brake, etc are not caliber change related)
 
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