Opinions on Norinco M14

[Hungry]

I'm gonna wade in here. Last year I was invited to a particular Amorer's workshop (I cannot mention which agency) to deliver an M14 clinic. Don't even ask who belongs to the Norinco M14's!! I'm not at liberty to say anything except that with Box STOCK Norinco M14's that are hand tuned inside their chu wood stocks, these rifles shot INSIDE 3/4" and many 1/2". I peered through their 'binders' of targets. I was impressed. The techniques they used are all from my clinic which are all from NRA publications since I did not invent them. I just pass them on with my brand of stale jokes.

We did carry out unitizing / welding of the gas cylinders (because all of them can weld) and I happen to be there standing over them with the 'finger of authority' pointing away. We shimmed their gas cylinder assemblies and re-assembled then test fired. Still hovering around 1/2" groups.... I was freaking amazed. Yes, they were shooting iron sights & sandbagged benched rifles. I had a tough time believing this until I saw it myself. I was amazed.


I showed them how to smooooothe their trigger (read: NOT reduce the weight) sear engagements. Those of you who have been to my clinics know this means, it ain't rocket science nor a state secret. They already had my DVD of the 2004 Abbotsford Clinic downloaded.

We pulled off (read: Whack the fzck out of it) the flash suppressors so that they can get at their gas cylinder assemblies. I did pass on the NavyShooter method that I just learned from the Halifax M14 Clinic the previous Sep 26, 2009. Thanks, Atlantic Marksmen Club! Thanks, NavyShooter... you made me look like a pro.


I cannot forget to mention that these master-craftsmen shot factory loaded match ammo (read: 168 gr Sierra MK's). The whole day was in a fog and vacuum and sometimes I shake my head to see if I was awake the entire time in this location. These dudes are fantastic. They know how to make the M14 Norc shoot!

I cannot say anymore due to confidentiality agreements/expectations.

I will close off by saying that these folks did everything using the "Hungry Welfare Methods" (keep it cheap, that's my plan) and certainly did not pump a great deal of money into their M14 platform(s). I keep reinforcing (around this forum) for all of you to save yer money! Buy practice ammo/reloading components and shoot your M14 (fzcking lots & lots) !!

Hope this clears up any confusion flying around this thread!



Barney

 

[Claven2]

Party on Garth!

38$ huh????? get real dude.

38$ Plus what??
Bolt, sights and every other darn thing at additional cost. By the time you are done you will be way over the $150 with shipping, duty and whatever - if you can actually get the RIGHT parts. As I said in my original post, you need to hand work the parts. When that is done - at no cost by the gun owner - he can get these things to work very well if he pays attention to what he's doing.

If a guy is not mechanically inclined, my buddy is, and when he's done with it it will be mint. Norinco parts or not.

*sigh *

Go back and re-read my posts. I told you, the only thing you *need* to replace IF you want GI hardness is the hammer, trigger and pins. $38 is $38 plus applicable tax and shipping. Maybe $50 all-in. Maybe.

The sights only need replacing if you're not happy with the Chinese ones. Re-heat treating the chinese ones will not make them better. when they don't work, it's not a softness issue, it's a manufacturing tolreance issue. Not all guns have this problem, just some.

Same story with the bolt. It only needs replacing if the headspace isn't safe. Your buddy spending $150 to re-harden his gun won't have any different headspace than he had before

Maybe you should take your CGN acount out for a spin and read the stickies at the top of the page, they will answer most of your questions rather than my having to re-tpye that stuff again and again...

 

[colin455]

Just scoped my Norinco M-14 (bone stock so far) with a Bushnell 3-9x40 and Springfield mount and Remington ball ammo. Still tweeking but best group do far at 100yds is 1.25". Pretty darn happy with that. Going to have to repeat it a few times before I run the flag up though.