Optics on a K31 ?

Look on Swiss products web site . I use there no drill mount and really like it . I went through there Canadian guy "diopeter " who is a CGN member
 
In spite of the modern urge to fit HUGE optics on these rifles/carbines, you'll need to consider limiting your choices to 40mm diameter bell optics. The reason is that anything bigger than this TENDS to impact the rear sight assembly unless the mounts are pretty high. This, in turn, leads to even more offset distance from the line of the bore. We get around this thanks to the work of one of the members of the Swissrifle forum, Pete Ogden, who is a maker of of beautiful leatherwork accessories, one of which is a custom cheek-piece riser for the K31, plain or fancy to taste.

Incidentally, the scope rings have a base of 11mm - or 3/8" - just like a rimfire does. One of the great points of this SP mount is that it has a built-in recoil stop - nothing is going to move that set-up, if correctly installed. I have two and the similar-fitting diopter setup, too.

As noted above, Diopter is a member here, as well on swissrifles.com and gunboards.com - just like me, in fact. :)

tac
 
To tacfoley - have you a contact number for Pete ?
To op- I seen a add for a centre mount that goes where rear sight mounts so scout mount with a deflection set up Calgary shooting centre may have them
 
Sorry, I don't know his phone number - but this is his site - . http://czechmauseritis.com.

As for scoping the K31, here I unshameably plagiarise a couple of posts from my pal Leon, over on gunboards.com

A good candidate for scoping a K31 is the Burris Timberline 4.5-14X-32. This scope has a small objective bell but plenty of magnification. Unusual also for a compact scope is the parallax adjustment. It's a movable ring on the objective. Scopes with a turret knob for parallax adjustment are going to be a problem with loading as well as ejected brass.

A good candidate for scoping a K31 is the Burris Timberline 4.5-14X-32. This scope has a small objective bell but plenty of magnification. Unusual also for a compact scope is the parallax adjustment. It's a movable ring on the objective. Scopes with a turret knob for parallax adjustment are going to be a problem with loading as well as ejected brass.

I'd suggest the Warne 7.3 rings only available from Brownell's: http://www.brownells.com/optics-moun...prod16768.aspx
The medium height rings should do the job. I like these rings because they provide plenty of clamping strength both on the scope base and the scope tube.

Plaudits to Leon.

tac
 
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I used the Swiss steel side mt /Burris steel .22 rings/Leupold M8 6X with a German post crosshair Cut groups to .700 from .770 with irons........GP11 ammo............oh well......Harold
 
Keithjohn said:
I'm right handed and it works better than I thought it would , might be to close for a LEFT hand guy
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OK just seems odd
Garands & Russians have side mount on the left .
On the right you would think you would be straining to line up with scope .
I am right handed & with eye sight not being what it used to be I'm thinking an optic sight is in my future :rolleyes:
 
The scope ends up about 1" off centre to the barrel so I sighted in the gun 1" to the right then it's good for longer ranges because it's parallel so at 500 yards say it's not crossing over as it would if you put it on zero at 100

Works for me
 
#1bcshooter said:
OK just seems odd
Garands & Russians have side mount on the left .
On the right you would think you would be straining to line up with scope .
I am right handed & with eye sight not being what it used to be I'm thinking an optic sight is in my future :rolleyes:
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Because the bolt handle or cocking piece are on the right side, the scope mount had to be on the left.
No strain at all.
 
The right hand mount is better to use that one on the left. I have Russian rifles with left side mounted scopes and getting a cheek weld is problematic.
 
#1bcshooter said:
OK now I'm confused :confused:
In the picture posted below from another CGN'r the scopes are off set to the right ?

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I think diopter is confused LOL

Very nice pic BTW ! :)
 
Re the offset - not such a problem as you might think. As has been pointed out, there are good few military rifles with post-production offset scopes. Remember that these are NOT dedicated target arms, but made into sharpshooter or sniper rifles as a military exigency - some corners must be cut. The option - usually and unwelcome one - is to drill and tap. This is made difficult by the need to use carbide drills and taps as the KJ31 receiver is very seriously hard.

There IS a scope mount that goes over the bore, either from Germany or Switzerland, but it is ca. $400 or so by comparison with the $75-ish of the SP version. Add the fact that unless you are really gentle, you are also going to ding that brass.

If you find difficulty adapting your cheek-weld to the offset, remember my post above, and invest $60 or so in one of Peter Ogden's fine cheek risers. For those of you who already shoot a No4[T] shooting offset is nothing new.

tac
 
Keithjohn said:
The scope ends up about 1" off centre to the barrel so I sighted in the gun 1" to the right then it's good for longer ranges because it's parallel so at 500 yards say it's not crossing over as it would if you put it on zero at 100

Works for me
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As you correctly note, the offset of a parallel-mounted scope is the same at ANY range.

tac
 
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