Options for no-magnification optic with battery-less reticle?

What is wrong with iron sights? I would trust my life to them

Nothing at all, I just like playing with toys that I can (almost) afford.

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I'm looking at a mount that is advertised to fit "Aimpoint T1, T2, H1, H2 or clones"

Which of these optics fit that description too?

Having never owned an Aimpoint I'm not sure what's different about them but assume it's not picatinny or weaver.

Thanks again everyone.
 
See All open sight might be worth looking into.

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I'm surprised they don't use a riser with that? Wouldn't you need to squish your face down pretty low on that?
 
Nothing at all, I just like playing with toys that I can (almost) afford.

New question:
I'm looking at a mount that is advertised to fit "Aimpoint T1, T2, H1, H2 or clones"

Which of these optics fit that description too?

Having never owned an Aimpoint I'm not sure what's different about them but assume it's not picatinny or weaver.

Thanks again everyone.

Vortex SPARC AR, Holosun 'Minis', and various other small sights with adapter plates - what they're describing is the the attachment of the sight to the mount, not the mount to the rail (which is Picatinny)
 
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Dual-illuminated would be a Trijicon RMR, but that might exceed your budget. Not too much to be had in the budget category for non-battery, unmagnified. IMO, it'd be better to go irons, since you can get a very nice set in that price range, as opposed to bottom barrel garbage if you were looking at optics in the same price range

Nothing at all, I just like playing with toys that I can (almost) afford.

New question:
I'm looking at a mount that is advertised to fit "Aimpoint T1, T2, H1, H2 or clones"

Which of these optics fit that description too?

Having never owned an Aimpoint I'm not sure what's different about them but assume it's not picatinny or weaver.

Thanks again everyone.

It's whatever has the matching bolt/recoil lug pattern of an Aimpoint MRDS. As far as I know, that's just Holosun.
 
i am going on 7 or 8 years with the original battery in my aimpoint m3. doesnt get used a ton but very little to worry about if you are concern3d about running out.
 
I get your point, but that's the nature of a free and open forum. If the OP doesn't want to spend that kind of money on an optic that's his prerogative but it never hurts to consider other "out of budget" options, regardless of how out of budget it may be.
Just like suggesting he get an aimpoint and forget about battery related worries. It's not what he initially asked for, but from the perspective of those who may know more, it's something we'd strongly recommend considering.

Besides, you should pretty much put a spectre on everything you own anyways.

You're right, a Specter would be nice on every rifle but then I'd need three or four of them just to cover my semi auto 223's and then a couple more for the semi auto 308's and at their current price I think I'll pass.
An Aimpoint can still be had for around what he says his budget is, Might be on the high end but at least they are still under $1000 and the PRO which I think I actually prefer over my T1 is only around $500
 
Armson OEG and they will ship to Canada if you order direct.

You need 2 eyes to use this sight.

Fiber optic illumination... You can get tritium so it works in the dark.

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You bet!! Haven't seen them since the 80's. I like the concept, but have never tried one--do they work well I wonder?
I always figured that they were made that way due to technology limitations of the day, and once Aimpoint and other similar sights came along were made obsolete--I'm surprised they're still made. I've sort-of simulated one by using an Aimpoint with the front lens cap on and I can't make it work. I'm very strongly right-eye dominant and can't get "superimpose both eyes" sighting methods (like the ACOG's Binden Aiming Concept) to work correctly.
 
I really think the OEG sight is great for people who are cross eye dominant but "normal people" can use them too.

I had one on an AR15 back in the 80s and sold it with the gun, but recently bought another one. I had it on a 22 for a while and on a shotgun.

It's no good for precision target shooting but I figure its great for the run and gun types.

They aren't very expensive and since they will ship to Canada from Africa or someplace it's no hassle to get one here.

I tried to order a see all sight a while ago (just for S&G) but could not find a supplier in Canada.

Here's another video shooting steel plates with the Armson OEG, just to get a sense of practical accuracy.

 
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I shot a CAR with an OEG - absolute state of the art in the '80's. It would still be very viable today - only I had 30 rounders to play with. Once you've got the hang of them, they're very quick. The original ones didn't have the fibre optic, they were like a steel tube with tritium inside, a lens on one end and a cap on the other. Used properly, they're very fast - like Aimpoints you're not supposed to focus on the dot, rather both eyes open and focused on the target. Unlike Aimpoints they're an absolute disaster when not used properly. I've probably seen more people close an eye, or 'draw a fine bead' with an Aimpoint than I have seen shoot them properly, this would cause you to suck, badly with an OEG.
 
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A buddy of mine uses a Trijicon RX34 on his AR and I liked it enough that I just bought one the other week off the EE for $400, which I was happy with. 4.5 MOA dot, tritium for night time, batter-less, 42mm objective lens, can't complain. A good set of Irons is always a good idea too though, in my opinion.
 
For the benefit of anyone searching this thread in the future, I ended up picking up a used Mepro M21 for a good price on the EE and a Holosun 403C from a dealer (for cheaper than a used one on the EE) and I am very happy with both.IMG_20170823_2119083.jpg
Thank you for all the suggestions, cheers!
 

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Armson OEG and they will ship to Canada if you order direct.

You need 2 eyes to use this sight.

Fiber optic illumination... You can get tritium so it works in the dark.

Order direct from where? Someone said Armsom USA won't ship and I can't find the original Armsom company.
 
I've been using See All Sight for almost a year. It is great on my 12Ga Mossberg but when it comes down to rifle and pistol it actually takes me longer to aim compare to a scope or iron sight. But once you get it all lined up it is very accurate. So definitely not something for IPSC or 3Gun but for range plinking I think they are great.
 
I put a vortex spark II on my norinco, 1/3 co witness with a flip up rear sight if needed. Took some time to get all the bits together, but works well. Always carry a few extra CR2032 batteries, but never had to change one at the range.
 
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