original nazi flag

Claybuster said:
Keepsakes preserved by a man who was there and fought the Nazis are very different than the scum who 70 years later worship the Nazis and their philosophy, deny the holocaust and justify the extermination of millions in pursuit of pure Ayran blood.

It's one thing to retain Nazi memorabilia because you or a family member served and it was willed to you. It is quite another to have it because you feel a personal affinity to Hitler and worship his actions.

I too have known several people who retained Nazi momentos from the war because they were there. For some it was a reminder they were never without. It was a number tattooed on their arms.
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So I guess the flags should be destroyed so that a few people can't worship them? What's your point anyways? There are many things in society that people are going to worship and believe in no matter how many flags you burn. All of the copies of mein komf should probably be burnt as well I guess.
 
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Claybuster said:
Keepsakes preserved by a man who was there and fought the Nazis are very different than the scum who 70 years later worship the Nazis and their philosophy, deny the holocaust and justify the extermination of millions in pursuit of pure Ayran blood.

It's one thing to retain Nazi memorabilia because you or a family member served and it was willed to you. It is quite another to have it because you feel a personal affinity to Hitler and worship his actions.

I too have known several people who retained Nazi momentos from the war because they were there. For some it was a reminder they were never without. It was a number tattooed on their arms.
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Very well said, sir.
 
The Giant said:
So I guess the flags should be destroyed so that a few people can't worship them? What's your point anyways? There are many things in society that people are going to worship and believe in no matter how many flags you burn. All of the copies of mein komf should probably burnt as well I guess.
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My point is I would prefer neo-nazi s**tbags, holocaust deniers and white power freaks be associated as little as possible with gun ownership.
 
It is painfully obvious that a large number of the guys posting borderline offensive comments have no clue what a collector is. I am a hard core militaria collector and at one time an equally hard core Springfield Armory collector. As a collector I see the significance of the german flag bearing the swastika. I view such an article as a piece of history and something which should be preserved. Due the construction of flags of the 40's it would be unwise to fly the thing as the risk of tearing or damaging the thing is too great.
Would I have one of these flags in my collection...it depends on the price and provenance. If the price was right and there was something connecting it to a division I collect then I would add it to my collection. I do not collect german, Italian, Russian or jap stuff...I am simply not interested. If someone else wants it , I just don't care, and I will not try to stop someone from owning it.
 
kenney said:
friend had for years and also burlap cloths from ukrain, the flag is thick about 9 by 5 feet in size, not a thing rong with it, i know this probly isnt the place to post it but haveno idea where to post it, was just wondering if therewas any value to these items, thanks ahead of time
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Claybuster said:
My point is I would prefer neo-nazi s**tbags, holocaust deniers and white power freaks be associated as little as possible with gun ownership.
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You have in no way even come close to the topic of this thread. You have gave us a lot of your opinion though. You really are worrying about nothing. My opinion.
 
The Giant said:
You have in no way even come close to the topic of this thread. You have gave us a lot of your opinion though. You really are worrying about nothing. My opinion.
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The OP asked on a gun site what the value was of a Nazi flag. Last time I checked this isn't a flag site or a Nazi site.

You are however correct. I did not provide an answer to his question.

Neither did you. You did however stand up in defense of people who own Nazi trinkets.

That's not opinion. It's fact.
 
i cant belive the people here on this site. open your minds people, this is a peice of history. yes its from a very dark time in history but also so are alot of things you find in museums. the flag depending on the size is worth from ( and its a guess ) 500 to priceless. and for those of you who think that the nazi flag is "dirty" dont come to our muesum here in gagetown where there are a few hung from the ceiling that were captured by fine canadian troops during the war. those flag were captured with blood and tears.
if we forget our past we will never find our way in the future.
 
Claybuster said:
The OP asked on a gun site what the value was of a Nazi flag. Last time I checked this isn't a flag site or a Nazi site.

You are however correct. I did not provide an answer to his question.

Neither did you. You did however stand up in defense of people who own Nazi trinkets.

That's not opinion. It's fact.
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Clay - Can I suggest that you start a thread called:

Neo-Nazis and How to Disassociate Them From Gun Owners?

I know I'd be happy to post there on the issue. At least then, no one will wonder how Neo-Nazis can be related to an old piece of war memorabilia and it's value.
 
Claybuster said:
Neither did you. You did however stand up in defense of people who own Nazi trinkets.

That's not opinion. It's fact.
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Somebody had to call you on your BS. Yes I did stand up in defense of people who own Nazi trinkets. I guess in your eyes I must be a nazi ?? I give up. You are never wrong.
 
angrysoldier said:
i cant belive the people here on this site. open your minds people, this is a peice of history. yes its from a very dark time in history but also so are alot of things you find in museums. the flag depending on the size is worth from ( and its a guess ) 500 to priceless. and for those of you who think that the nazi flag is "dirty" dont come to our muesum here in gagetown where there are a few hung from the ceiling that were captured by fine canadian troops during the war. those flag were captured with blood and tears.
if we forget our past we will never find our way in the future.
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So the OP should donate it to a museum where it can be a reminder of a past that is not forgotten or the sacrifices of the men who tore that flag down.

That's a significant difference from it being slobbered over in the basement of some white power freak who denies the evil that flag stood for and nutures a dream that the past the flag represents will one day return.
 
clay, im felling some anger from you. but not every german was a nazi. most were soldiers doing a job and that was it. the pope was a nazi! ive met a few former german soldiers some who even won the iron cross, and in the same nursing home i volenteer at is a lady who still wears her tatoo number on her arm. the war is over and ive never met a skin head or white power type in my life. im pretty sure those people are hiding in thier basements, not working and collecting welfare. i dont think we have to worry about them too much.
my biggest problem is that people still to this day relate that flag to hate, the hate has been over for 60 years. we have to let go of the hate and remember the total picture and the lives that were lost during the war. but we cannot ever forget that a man with a burning hot case of little man started it all and that is it.
 
Part of the problem is that the war might be over, but the HATE has been kept going for 64 years since it ended. This is the first time in history that such a thing has occurred. Generally, the war ends, peaceful relations start and, while memories might still be vivid, at least the HATE dies.

But this time it's different.

Why?

Could it be that a lot of people are making a lot of money out of KEEPING the hate alive? Perhaps the entertainment industry?

Or is it all a red herring: keep people focussed on the Nasties and they might not watch what the Commies are getting up to.

Go into any university in the country: Marxist propaganda everywhere.
TRY passing a course in Economics WITHOUT being a Socialist and writing all your essays from a Marxist theoretical standpoint. Or Philosophy. Or Political Science, for that matter.

When I started collecting guns, I got a Luger. My first handgun. It was made in 1918.... and I was called a "Nazi" because I owned it. The local RCMPO like to shoot it, though.
Then I got a Kar98k...... and more people called me a "Nazi".
I even have a copy of Mein Kampf (Ralph Manheim translation, 1943). You can even read it and get some laughs out of a couple of spots.... without being a Nazi.

I'm a HISTORIAN.
My collection preserves the HISTORY of the people of my country (Canada) and of the countries with which it has associated. When I see a P-38, I see a piece of technology; I don;t see a smokestack at Auschwitz. When I handle a Lee-Enfield, I don't associate that with the firebombing of Dresden, either: I see a British Commonwealth rifle.
It is a PART of history that the Nazis ran Germany for 12 years.
It is ALSO a part of history that Dresden was the railhead for the Eastern Front, Hiroshima manufactured the bulk of Japan's military optics and Nagasaki was a major seaport.

Maybe it's time to stop HATING.... and all sit down and read some history books.

Then we can go to the range and have some fun.
That's what we're here for, anyway.
 
I collect German and allied WW2 stuff uniforms medals weapons etc {i have a origional german flag of aprox the same size as well as a 14 ft by 4 ft building banner ]
the value changes based on size and condition ,bigger is not always worth more money
though. I have seen large flags over 20 ft long not sell at all because they are to big to display.
Ps anyone that wants to call me a neo nazi skinhead etc better have a spare set of teeth just in case they run into me in person.
 
smellie: The luger comment made me laugh. How in the world can you be a Nazi for owning something that was made before the party was conceived?
 
Clay, I doubt the allied soldiers who took those flags as souvenir were Nazis... They fought the Nazis foes and took home nazi items just as every soldiers in history took home some items found on their ennemies. Those objects represent History and should just be considered reminders of the past... Just like Napoleonic wars objects, Viet-cong objects, Iraki war objects, etc... Remember those people who say you are a potential murderer and a violent individual just because you own firearms: same reasoning you are applying to persons who own Nazi items...
 
To answer the OP's question, rather than participate in this silly ####storm that has been done to death, there are lots of people who'll pay money for it as like it or not it's history.

If you have moral compunctions about selling it to a neo-Nazi, talk to the guy first and find out what he's planning to do with it.
 
I agree ....I run into this now and then as a German WW2 reenactor.....its time to get over it and move on ....alot of those men were fighting for thier people and familys under threat, they didnt want to be there just as much as I know some of our own country men didnt want to be there under threat of imprisonment .... so is it right to forget the german soldiers? ...I think all nations involved should remember the boys who died fighting on all side's be they allies or axis ...... we were no better by times look at the camps we sent the Japanese immigrants too ....on all sides there were good men and some worthless sourapples. its history now, and they should never be forgot!
 
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