Our Black Rifle Related Initiatives

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With the CPC in an advantageous position, I have the following two proposals. It is time to ruffle the feather a bit and start getting things OUR WAY.

1) For years, all AR15s are considered restricted. However, the exact wording of the OIC restricts M16 and its variants only. Note that AR15 is around long before M16, M16 is a variant of AR15 but the vice versa is not true. THis is well documented and commonly known fact. Our position is that all AR15s, other than the models specifically names in the OIC, with barrels over 18.5" should be non-restricted as they are not variants of M16. This means AR10 and SR25 should be non-restricted as well.


2)We should start pushing what we will call the "Military Heritage Act" or " Military Heritage Initative". To honour our military and sacrifice made by our soldiers, Canadian should be reminded of the contribution of our military and our regimental heritage. We propose that all variants and models of Canadian issued small arms should not be prohibited now and in the future. This means all variants of C7, C1, C2, C6 and C9, should be reclassed as non-restricted or restricted. We should follow what switzerland does - While CA is prohib, CA of government issued rifles is excepted if they are legally obtained.
 
This is a fantastic idea, #1 seems plausible if not down right probable. Are these initiatives already organized or are these only proposals at this point? What can I do to help?
 
Great ideas!

Have any MP's or others in position to help get these through been contacted?

If so, who?
 
1) For years, all AR15s are considered restricted. However, the exact wording of the OIC restricts M16 and its variants only. Note that AR15 is around long before M16, M16 is a variant of AR15 but the vice versa is not true. THis is well documented and commonly known fact. Our position is that all AR15s, other than the models specifically names in the OIC, with barrels over 18.5" should be non-restricted as they are not variants of M16. This means AR10 and SR25 should be non-restricted as well.
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Since the firearms act is black letter law, this should be 'easy' to do. Definitely costly though.
 
How about encouraging more shooters to get involved in Service Rifle competion.
By using any former military rifle, (or semi auto version) for sporting purpose, it makes it harder to outlaw them later, as it is documented that they have ben used in sporting competions across the country.
 
I would like to hear how the Valmet 78 re-registration was initiated.

For 1) I will say CSSA should provide some consultancy. Time to make my membership pay!

For 2) I will say we should start from a different angle. Start with the ministry of Heritage and the Governor General, as well as directly to the Prime Minister. THis is a heritage and cultural issue - but it can be done through amendment to the OIC.
 
Costly indeed...Seems that if every member here tossed a small 'user' fee in that there would be quite a few bucks.

Ya gotta pay to play imho
 
Military heritage firearms should include all pre-45 auto's because vets brought most of those back and they have a great historical significance.
 
i'd like to see the m14 and g-3s ( lord knows how i love that rifle) included somehow/where- i didn't get how the m14 ( not the norc/poly) went from a HUNTING rifle to a PROHIBITED overnight- but that's what happened perfect legal long arm one night, prohib the next-
 
one of my contact if the french pro-gun mouvment got the french gouv to classify hunting as a cultural activity this got them 2 things

1) protection of the activity by the covention on cultural diversity

2) a great source of financing, do you know how much money is invested in cultural events each years.

this could be a great way to start
 
esquif said:
one of my contact if the french pro-gun mouvment got the french gouv to classify hunting as a cultural activity this got them 2 things

1) protection of the activity by the covention on cultural diversity

2) a great source of financing, do you know how much money is invested in cultural events each years.

this could be a great way to start
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THis is a great idea!! maybe we should form a non-profit organization to do this.
 
This is a worthy effort, and there is historical precedent for it.

The AR15 was originaly classified as "Restricted" in 1978 under the Trudeau Liberal government's Bill C51, the law which imposed the FAC, the short barrelled rifle rules, and the prohibition on the transfer of registered full auto firearms.

At that time, a movement was formed in the firearms community under the leadership of the NFA to take the AR15 off the restricted list, as there was really no reason for it to be there in the first place.

They lobbied the government to do this, but there was not much chance of it happening under the Trudeau Liberals.

Then, in 1980, the Joe Clark PC's were elected. They heard the firearms community of the day, and removed the AR15 from the restricted list.

20" AR15's that is, 16" CAR15's stayed restricted due to the short barrelled rifle regs. This did not change.

The current restriction on the AR15 stems from the Kim Campbell PC's Bill C17 of 1992. The AR15 was originally supposed to be prohibited under the Chretien/Allan Rock Liberal's Bill C68 in 1995, but intervention of the DCRA prevented this. The AR15 was to be prohibited at a later date under Bill C68.

The big gun groups have to fight the gun issue on a lot of fronts. Black rifles and handguns are an important part of this, but it would definiely be helpful if a group was formed specific to this issue.

This group could concentrate on addressing all of the issues over restricted/prohibited firearms, the AW controversy, and re addressing of the restricted and prohibited classes.

You should approach this as a "users group" rather than a hardcore political lobby. Governments like to give the impression that they have consulted with user's groups, modified legislation to reduce deleterious effects, and made ammendments when introducing legislative initiatives.

Under the right circumstances, a Black Rifle user's group could undue a lot of the stupidity and damage that has been done to the firearms community over the years.


Blair Hagen
Vice President, Communications
National Firearms Association
www.nfa.ca
 
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