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Wiseguym70 said:
should i just wait 5 years then? is my chances harshly diminished by my stupidity?
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Just send in your app and be honest. They will use their discretion. In all likelihood, they will see it for what it was, a person saying something crazy but was not serious about it.
 
Better that you say something then them finding out and accusing you of intentionally hiding something. Good luck.
 
Garaldtao said:
Yes they can. They just can not use it in court as evidence or as a reason to charge you with a crime. Saying 'No' does not involve the law or have anything to do with court proceedings.
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Again no they cant just check it A valid subpoena issued in connection with an official criminal investigation is required to compel the disclosure of basic subscriber records
A court order issued under 18 U.S.C. Section 2703(d) is required to compel the disclosure of certain records or other information pertaining to the account, not including contents of communications, which may include message headers and IP addresses, in addition to the basic subscriber records identified above.
The same goes for Canada as well, they need a court order to check your messenge or email, sending you a friend request and check your public status is a different story
 
Don't give people false information
Police need to have a special wiretap warrant to access a suspect's daily batch of text messages from their wireless provider, the Supreme Court of Canada decided Wednesday, in its latest ruling on privacy protection in the age of cellphones and digital communication.
Same for your online information
 
Send your application don't get your self a phys evaluation when you don't need too , and since our friend say they add you on Facebook don't accept people who you don't know
 
satrap said:
Again no they cant just check it A valid subpoena issued in connection with an official criminal investigation is required to compel the disclosure of basic subscriber records
A court order issued under 18 U.S.C. Section 2703(d) is required to compel the disclosure of certain records or other information pertaining to the account, not including contents of communications, which may include message headers and IP addresses, in addition to the basic subscriber records identified above.
The same goes for Canada as well, they need a court order to check your messenge or email, sending you a friend request and check your public status is a different story
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It's true, the police do need a court order to legally spy on you. We all know that the police never ever break the law or bend the rules. The police never make mistakes or even show any emotions. In fact, I don't think they are even human. I spent three years as a crown prosecutor at the old city hall court house and five at the CFO office... You would think I would have more faith in our judicial system and in our police and in some ways I still do but the reality is that our system is flawed because it is a system run by individuals who, like you and I, make mistakes, take short cuts and interpret things as they feel fit.

Be my guest to argue all you want with me. My advice to the OP, just be honest with the police and in turn they will respect you more.
 
Garaldtao said:
It's true, the police do need a court order to legally spy on you. We all know that the police never ever break the law or bend the rules. The police never make mistakes or even show any emotions. In fact, I don't think they are even human. I spent three years as a crown prosecutor at the old city hall court house and five at the CFO office... You would think I would have more faith in our judicial system and in our police and in some ways I still do but the reality is that our system is flawed because it is a system run by individuals who, like you and I, make mistakes, take short cuts and interpret things as they feel fit.

Be my guest to argue all you want with me. My advice to the OP, just be honest with the police and in turn they will respect you more.
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They won't use they backdoors on google and fb to see who he send msg too, they don't waste they resources on this type of thing,
 
You have a lot of faith in the RCMP... like a lot...

Unless you were charged or have charges pending I wouldn't worry about it.

Mind if I ask your age?
 
Were these ppl already "known" to police... probably already people who were going to be denied a firearms license anyway?
Garaldtao said:
Be honest. There has been two instances that have been brought to my attension where both individuals applied for their PALs and within a few days recieved a friend request on facebook. Upon accepting the friend request, they were informed it was the RCMP and they need to call them to go over a few things. It delayed one person's application by 3 years and rejected the other. If I didn't see it with my own eyes, I would not have believed it. I think it is strange and cheesy that the police is on social media but the reality is that it is now apart of policing. Your Facebook history never gets erased and they will find out so the best thing to do is to be straight with them and let them use their discression.
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Parents use to tell their kids "I'm going to ring your neck." Or friends use to say to their friends " I'm going to kill you". Teenage girls say "I could just die." I never took any of those comments seriously. If what you said was in that context, then it's not worth disclosing. Anything above that, even if meant to have an effect on your ex GF is troubling. Yours and the public safety is the most important thing. Be honest with yourself and the CFC. Only you truly know what and how you meant to say what you said. Maybe that's why you are here asking us.
 
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