PAL Wait Time

I finally have a minor update.

My application has finally left miramichi and gone to the cfo. Finally. It still hasnt been approved, but at least its not sitting in a pile in Miramichi anymore and its moved to a different pile.
82 days total at miramichi, received april 20th. No idea why they didnt send it to cfo sooner. I call 3 times a week.

Now lets see how long the ontario cfo takes with it.
 
.... AND they would not give explanation??? Curious what anyone did that had the application at the CFO for 4+ months??? And any explanation on that one??? Why do they even have people that answer the phone since sounds like they do JACK ####!!
 
Just got off the phone with them to try to get my application # to send in my stamped course papers. I was told they have started processing applications they received the 1st week of June. My application was delivered there on June 13th. So I will have to call back in a week or two again. The lady who took my call was really nice and said not to hesitate to call back whenever I want to check on the status. Will try again next week.
 
Checked the status of mine today and they say it's been issued. My timeline was like this:

Sent in form and test results: May 24th
Received by RCMP: May 28th
Credit card charged: July 3rd
Issued July 12th.

Exactly 45 days. No calls for interviews. Application was first time PAL/RPAL. I never called them to check how it was going or if there was missing info.
 
Wooow that was fast. Mine has definatley been sidelined. What is super annoying .... They do not tell you anything or explain why. To be honest I am not even sure why they have a phone line to call in to
 
RifleGirl1986 said:
Just got off the phone with them to try to get my application # to send in my stamped course papers. I was told they have started processing applications they received the 1st week of June. My application was delivered there on June 13th. So I will have to call back in a week or two again. The lady who took my call was really nice and said not to hesitate to call back whenever I want to check on the status. Will try again next week.
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Thanks for the update. Mine was received on June 15th and I had included my test results so I guess it's just a little more time before I see it online.
 
I'm starting to believe the anti gun thing in Canada. I'm 13 months in right now and still waiting for my non restricted license. My application was revived June 6 2017. Still with the CFO. I'm actually starting to give up hope of ever getting my license. The sad part is, I still check my online status daily. I'm done calling in. I get the same thing every time. Even with the "direct cfo" extension number. The lady on the phone is always nice but never really had an useful information. The rifle my buddy was going to sell me gas been sold elsewhere. He couldn't wait any longer, and I don't blame him lol
 
OK ... Buddy ... that is insane long time..... waayyy too long for any justification. If you got money to pony up .... get a lawyer that deals in firearms violation. Contact Canadian Coilision for Firearms Rights. You Got to go after the RCMP!!! Use some muscle .... You are major being jerked around ... 13 months ... INSANE. We got to fight back this Government.... SAD IT TAKES MONEY. Brother .... I think I am in that position myself. I am starting to save money to contact a lawyer. They hear from a Lawyer .... the listen up, they move. I believe you have the right to a determination one way or another. If denied a P.A.L. you have an appeals process if you feel their reason is not justifiable. It is heard before a judge. ....... Right now all you are getting is the DIPPY DOO ... FLIP AROO. Good Luck!!!

P.S. Please tell me how these CRAP WEASELS on the phone are not shocked !!! What .... they say like they say to everyone else " Check back in a Month" At this point they should be telling you something went wrong and they will issue an investigation.... Like really.... what would they be waiting to do .... AFTER 13 MONTHS!!! .... INSANE!!!
 
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My timeline so far.
Completed CFSC, and CFRSC May 9th, 2018
Received stamped test results June 6th, 2018
Application arrived in Miramichi June 8th, 2018
As of today it's yet to appear online.
 
Ozzi said:
My timeline so far.
Completed CFSC, and CFRSC May 9th, 2018
Received stamped test results June 6th, 2018
Application arrived in Miramichi June 8th, 2018
As of today it's yet to appear online.
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They received mine 9 days before you and it only appeared online last Friday so I’d imagine yours will be up next week.
 
Timeline for upgrade to RPAL.

Application arrived in Miramichi on April 27th.
Shows up online June 6th (40 calendar days)
Received request for additional info in mail from RCMP. Mailed out new photo and test results on June 12th.
Completed initial processing July 5th.
License issued on July 13th.

So in total 11 weeks from them receiving my application to having my license issued. I would’ve shaved off a couple weeks if I didn’t have to resend a new photo and test results.
 
ae92gts said:
I'm starting to believe the anti gun thing in Canada. I'm 13 months in right now and still waiting for my non restricted license. My application was revived June 6 2017. Still with the CFO. I'm actually starting to give up hope of ever getting my license. The sad part is, I still check my online status daily. I'm done calling in. I get the same thing every time. Even with the "direct cfo" extension number. The lady on the phone is always nice but never really had an useful information. The rifle my buddy was going to sell me gas been sold elsewhere. He couldn't wait any longer, and I don't blame him lol
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Call (don't email) and complain to your MP. Then file a complaint: http://www.crcc-ccetp.gc.ca/en/make-complaint

Do the complaint quickly, as it has to be within 12 months of the event occurring. In your case, that would be 45 days (the "service standard" for license processing) from June 6, 2017, which is July 21, 2018. Even if they opt to argue that they say a "minimum" of 45 days, that's fine, your complaint is still valid....just don't give them a basis on which to deny your complaint because you waited too long to start the process.
 
You cannot be sure your MP will do anything and an MP has no jurisdiction to make the RCMP do anything.

I like what RICK911 said in another thread and what he did ... According to sec 74 of the Firearms act and further ..... a wait substantially longer than the average such as 4 months at the CFO office may be construed as a refusal by the CFO to make a determination & thus be brought to a Provincial Judge. I believe if you want REAL action you need to retain a lawyer that deals with firearms issues, contacts the CFO directly & if they are playing dirty ... force it in front of a Judge. Good luck
 
FreedomWarrior said:
You cannot be sure your MP will do anything and an MP has no jurisdiction to make the RCMP do anything.

I like what RICK911 said in another thread and what he did ... According to sec 74 of the Firearms act and further ..... a wait substantially longer than the average such as 4 months at the CFO office may be construed as a refusal by the CFO to make a determination & thus be brought to a Provincial Judge. I believe if you want REAL action you need to retain a lawyer that deals with firearms issues, contacts the CFO directly & if they are playing dirty ... force it in front of a Judge. Good luck
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I see pink coming soon
 
TheFalseProphet said:
Everyone I've ever known to have problems and delays getting a PAL has made a call to their MP and had their license in hand within 2 weeks.



This is a drastic oversimplification and should not be taken seriously.
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I called my MP about my delay and he said all he can do is call the same number that we all call and ask about my status on my behalf. They don't have some direct line to the person handling your application.
Sure your MP can call in, theyre just going to say the same thing to him that they say to you, ie)- still being worked on, call back in a month.
 
Catzo said:
I called my MP about my delay and he said all he can do is call the same number that we all call and ask about my status on my behalf. They don't have some direct line to the person handling your application.
Sure your MP can call in, theyre just going to say the same thing to him that they say to you, ie)- still being worked on, call back in a month.
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My experience has been very different. Most recently, I was sitting in the room with my sister and her (liberal!) MP when they called the RCMP and ask to speak to a supervisor. The person on the other end of the phone looked up the application and sent it off to the CFO on the spot. The next day I got a call from the CFO's office about a second interview as a reference. Later that day she text me about getting a call from the CFO about a second interview for her. Minutes later she text that her license was approved. (If you don't check "yes" to any of the questions you likely won't even have to go through those extra CFO interviews.)

Or by all means continue waiting patiently. Or get a lawyer and try going beast mode in court.
 
TheFalseProphet said:
My experience has been very different. Most recently, I was sitting in the room with my sister and her (liberal!) MP when they called the RCMP and ask to speak to a supervisor. The person on the other end of the phone looked up the application and sent it off to the CFO on the spot. The next day I got a call from the CFO's office about a second interview as a reference. Later that day she text me about getting a call from the CFO about a second interview for her. Minutes later she text that her license was approved. (If you don't check "yes" to any of the questions you likely won't even have to go through those extra CFO interviews.)

Or by all means continue waiting patiently. Or get a lawyer and try going beast mode in court.
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Well after 2 months of calling Miramichi twice a week to be told 'still being worked on, call back later' I called the Ontario CFO today for the first time since my application was finally sent there and I was instantly transferred to the officer my case has been assigned to.

Apparently my application was flagged because I failed the background check but neither me or the officer know why. Whats more, I had to get a background check late last year for a job and it came up completely clean. She said she only reviews applications that involve a criminal record or mental health issue but could not figure out why my case was sent to her. I had no boxes checked.

Still we had an indepth 20min phone interview she was very thorough in her questioning. She thanked me for my time and gave me her direct line if i needed to reach her. My online application status is still saying 'processing'.

It is nice to finally have something happen though and now I can reach my officer directly no more Miramichi call center. And the officer assigned to my case was super friendly and understanding i couldnt ask for a better one.

For what its worth, she said she was currently working on flagged applications from november 2017 so if youre one of us unlucky few to get flagged theres a significant delay but call your cfo asap and see if you can help them out
 
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