Pardus Reviews?

Where did you get those numbers m8? Are you sure its not 2 and 3 rounds though them?

I have been shooting skeet/trap for about 25 years, and I have seen people using the same Citori shotguns for all of those years. Some of them had been using the same trap gun for ten years prior to me taking up the sport. I averaged 5000 to 10,000 rounds per year, and those people shot as many rounds as I did, some of them considerably more. As I posted, let us know when you are aware of an alloy frame Tristar that has fired 100,000 rounds, and still functions perfectly.

Just for curiosity sake, how many rounds have you fired out of shotguns in your lifetime, to make the statement that the Tristar would outlast the Brownings?
 
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I have been shooting skeet/trap for about 25 years, and I have seen people using the same Citori shotguns for all of those years. Some of them had been using the same trap gun for ten years prior to me taking up the sport. I averaged 5000 to 10,000 rounds per year, and those people shot as many rounds as I did, some of them considerably more. As I posted, let us know when you are aware of an alloy frame Tristar that as fired 100,000 rounds.

Just for curiosity sake, how many rounds have you fired out of shotguns in your lifetime, to make the statement that the Tristar would outlast the Brownings?

My buddy has a Citori with about 10,000 rounds through it and feels that it is finally starting to loosen up. MY Pardus will not outlast a Browning. Not even close.
 
I have been shooting skeet/trap for about 25 years, and I have seen people using the same Citori shotguns for all of those years. Some of them had been using the same trap gun for ten years prior to me taking up the sport. I averaged 5000 to 10,000 rounds per year, and those people shot as many rounds as I did, some of them considerably more. As I posted, let us know when you are aware of an alloy frame Tristar that has fired 100,000 rounds, and still functions perfectly.

Just for curiosity sake, how many rounds have you fired out of shotguns in your lifetime, to make the statement that the Tristar would outlast the Brownings?

Probably about the same amount of registered targets you have?
You do know that all of things that are being said about these Turkish guns, were said about the Spanish guns, not all that long ago?

Owning two Spanish made guns now makes you an expert on budget shotguns?
These guys are buying what they want, at a price point that they want to pay, knowing full well what they are paying for. Let them be.

I have guns in the safe that make your Spanish junk look like, well, junk. So what? Does it really matter?

R.
 
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Probably about the same amount of registered targets you have?
You do know that all of things that are being said about these Turkish guns, were said about the Spanish guns, not all that long ago?

Owning two Spanish made guns now makes you an expert on budget shotguns?
These guys are buying what they want, at a price point that they want to pay, knowing full well what they are paying for. Let them be.

I have guns in the safe that make your Spanish junk look like, well, junk. So what? Does it really matter?

R.

I was responding to the person claiming that the alloy framed Tristar would outlast a Browning o/u , guns which have been proven to be reliable at trap and skeet for many years. I wasn't responding to some arrogant clown that hangs out here now that he has been banned from the other site, that he used to go to to spout his nonsense, and to harass people.f:P:

By all means, purchase whatever you wish, but making the statement that a low end allow framed Turkish gun will provide a longer service life than the well proven Citori is nothing more than nonsense.
 
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I was responding to the person claiming that the alloy framed Tristar would outlast a Browning o/u , guns which have been proven to be reliable at trap and skeet for many years. I wasn't responding to some arrogant clown that hangs out here now that he has been banned from the other site, that he used to go to to spout his nonsense, and to harass people.f:P:

For a true sense of arrogance, go and re-read all of your posts on this thread.
May as throw entitlement and superiority in there as well.

Again, if the only card you have to play, is me getting banned from another site, as many, many, others have been, then you need to get a new deck.

As far as nonsense goes, you also have that market cornered. The response was probably, not that it would. Maybe run some more googler and get some better answers going? Laugh2
When your experience catches up with your pretend, make sure to post about it. And when someone else's experience exceeds yours, you perceive it as arrogance? :ang
Clown indeed. Keep up the good work, fella! You're doing great! :rolleyes:

Your unwavering need to correct everyone else is more than obvious, but no ones dares to correct you? Too funny.

R.
 
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It's funny the challenger and federal shells I used both have 2 1/2 drams of powder, yet the challenger shells gave me problems.
I guess I will stick with the federal shells.
 
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A bit of an update. The 20ga SL has been broken in a bit and is starting to cycle the challengers better.

I had it out for a few rounds of clays and after my first round shooting only the remingtons I decided to take a handful of the challengers and use them on singles and shot 2 of doubles. This would now be about 50 rounds through the gun and its nice and warmed up at this point and they would eject about 8/10 or 9/10 on the singles and as the second shot.

So I decided to try a few doubles with the challengers and it seems that if there's another round in the tube there must be more resistance somewhere, because I was only ejecting about half of the time on the first shot, but it would go back to the 8-9/10 on the second shot.

This time I tried to compare the two shells side by side to see if I could make out a difference, but they were pretty close. The remingtons were slightly longer, so they may cycle the action a little quicker, and although the bases were different colours, the rims both seemed about the same size, and I compared them to some federal I had at home and again, not much of a difference.

One thing I did notice afterword though is that after I st6arted using and handling the challenger shells is that my fingers felt a little greasy, so I wonder if they have a wax or lubricant on them from the manufacturing process that the other brands don't. In my head this could be causing the extractor to slip off the rim as there's less friction to let it grab on, or if there was any on the outside of the hull maybe the heat of firing is changing it enough that it is making the hull stick to the inside of the chamber more.

If there is some sort of wax or residue on the challengers, that could be the reason it would work as the last shot, but not 2 in a row, the other round could be cleaning off the residue between shots with the challenger, but 2 in a row builds up too much.

I had trouble with the challengers in my 20ga SL as well. Remington, federal and a few unmarked randoms cycled perfectly, but I would only get 1 out of every 4 or 5 challengers eject properly.

It's too bad I got a whole case of them to use up, but I may keep them in a separate pocket and always make sure they're shot 2 on doubles when I don't mind taking the time to pull the hull out by hand.

It's funny the challenger and federal shells I used both have 2 1/2 drams of powder, yet the challenger shells gave me problems.
I guess I will stick with the federal shells.
 
I ordered the ps breakdown also, one of the few models still in stock. Other than a 20 inch bbl, not sure if it is a slug bbl or other, or what breakdown really means in this model.

Does anyone know?
 
I ordered the ps breakdown also, one of the few models still in stock. Other than a 20 inch bbl, not sure if it is a slug bbl or other, or what breakdown really means in this model.

Does anyone know?

The girl on the phone from customer service told me it has been described to her as a folding stock like the "Jurrasic Park gun" . I was assured it wasn't the pistol grip one so I ordered it. If I want I can return it as long as it isn't fired.
 
I ended up ordering a desert camo full stock with pistol grip. Had to look at the pardus website to see what it looks like. Good enough for a social prize at that price. Guess its this one
 

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