Pavehammer's Kaboom

There's no reason for me to disclose the name of the guy who reloaded the ammunition. If he decides that it's to be said, he can come out and do it.

This is to avoid the eventual "YOU COULD HAVE KILLED THOSE KIDS" comments, as I know someone would come out with it.

Anyways, the pistol is off sometime this week, probably, and on a lighter note, I've sold my Glock and am now just giddy with the prospect of selecting a new pistol. I shot the Glock like ####, and there wasn't much possibility of improvement, it would seem. I shoot pretty well with a Sig or an HK, so I'm looking for a 220R or 226R, and possibly even an ST model of either.

Thanks,

Brad
 
PaveHammer said:
There's no reason for me to disclose the name of the guy who reloaded the ammunition. If he decides that it's to be said, he can come out and do it.

This is to avoid the eventual "YOU COULD HAVE KILLED THOSE KIDS" comments, as I know someone would come out with it.

Anyways, the pistol is off sometime this week, probably, and on a lighter note, I've sold my Glock and am now just giddy with the prospect of selecting a new pistol. I shot the Glock like s**t, and there wasn't much possibility of improvement, it would seem. I shoot pretty well with a Sig or an HK, so I'm looking for a 220R or 226R, and possibly even an ST model of either.

Thanks,

Brad
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Smart move, discretion is a virtue. Your dad will have a H&K Tactical you can play with soon :) You can't go wrong with a SIG either. :)
 
Part of me loves the hunt for a new gun, but part of me hates the back-and-forth between different models.

I'd like a 220R or ST, or maybe a 226R or ST, but what about an STI Ranger II? It's pretty cool, too.

Bah.
 
PaveHammer said:
There's no reason for me to disclose the name of the guy who reloaded the ammunition. If he decides that it's to be said, he can come out and do it.

This is to avoid the eventual "YOU COULD HAVE KILLED THOSE KIDS" comments, as I know someone would come out with it.
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Well, if it was comercially available, it may give some people on here a 'heads up' if you will, on a possible Quality Control issue with the remanufactured ammo.
If this was an individual loading for private use, I understand & support your decision to keep that information to yourself.
 
Beltfed,

Yeah, when I originally said manufacturor, I meant buddy that reloaded the rounds.

It's a private individual, good friend of mine. As I said before, I won't say boo, as it's his decision.
 
anyone who uses a gun knows there is a chance of this happening. I've had squibs and over charges with brand new factory ammo in 9mm, .40 and even in .22's. I've had one squib with my own reloads (and not in my gun either, but in a gun I was trying out). I've also seen factory Winchester with no primer flash holes and even bullets loaded upside down.
Good to hear you didn't get hurt and that your gun only needs minor repairs.
As for the Sig, I'd have to say go for the full meal deal and get the 226 stainless with rail. I met a couple guys at the last IPSC Qualifiers with them, they are gorgeous guns, and got to try one of them out on Saturday night. Talk driver is an understatement, and the heavier frame absorbs recoil quite nicely. Probably the only thing I could say bad about them is that they are heavy and might not be as quick to move from target to target, but then again a lot of that depends on the shooter.
 
Typical CGN's, one day after the kaboom and Pavehammer is already looking for a new gun with lots of "advice" from fellow nuts. Short of a piece of lead through the head nothing seems to dampen our love for the hobby :)
 
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No one was hurt, all I need is a replacement barrel, and we're good to go. I already have a big pile of new parts that're going to go on the pistol, including a new guide rod and plug, new slide stop, and new recoil spring, so the only thing that needs replacing is a bushing and a barrel.


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I've seen plenty of "ringed" barrels after a "squib" including several 1911s. Usually they are still "shootable" after the bulge is removed from the exterior.

Am I the ONLY one who is disturbed by the BARREL FAILURE?

Looks to me like the barrel may have had a flaw, or was a poor (barrel) material.

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I'm pretty sure I have a 5" take off barrel kicking around somewhere... Don't know about a bushing but they are cheap but I'll check...

It's yours for the taking... I also have plungers and probably a Slide stop too... Just tell me what you need and give me an address.. They aren't new parts but they will get you back on target..
 
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Squibs happen with factory loads - I 'saved' an RCMP S&W by yelling at the member to cease fire and unload before he did the tap/rack/kaboom...with issued Winchester factory ammo!
 
Lee Enfield said:
Looks to me like the barrel may have had a flaw, or was a poor (barrel) material.

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Not neccessarily...

Some barrell manufacturers (Schuman is one) deisgn the barrels to fail in this fashion...sort of a controled blow up. A buddy of mine nuked his Schuman Barrel a few years back and made the same comment about the noticible top seam where it came apart. He got the info directly from Schuman...

If it was a barrell obtsruction...the end result shown in the pic is pretty much expected...
 
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Quigley said:
Not neccessarily...

Some barrell manufacturers (Schuman is one) deisgn the barrels to fail in this fashion...sort of a controled blow up. A buddy of mine nuked his Schuman Barrel a few years back and made the same comment about the noticible top seam where it came apart. He got the info directly from Schuman...

If it was a barrell obtsruction...the end result shown in the pic is pretty much expected...
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Schuman? not familiar with them.

Sounds alot like a** covering to me. I've seen barrels which split before firing a shot. It's called improper stess relief during mfg (after rifling).

I've seen barrels with multiple projectiles stacked up which DID NOT catastrophically fail ala above.

On those eventually a bullet is often forced out the side, leaving a tear in the barrel.

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STI uses (some?) schuman barrels.. And they are "stress relieved" so control the failure... Better to let the barrell which is easily replaced fail in a manner that will not compromise the rest of the gun
 
Lee Enfield said:
I've seen barrels with multiple projectiles stacked up which DID NOT catastrophically fail ala above.



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Just curious...but how would someone manage to get "multiple projectiles" stacked up in a barrel?
 
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