FightingIrish
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Haha nice. I hate people using the word and not understanding it's meaning.
Peeps with short barrel AR's
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So everyone who wants to reduce muzzle climb is inconsiderate and a douche?
Is it possible that guys with brakes are coming next to you to shoot because they may feel like you're being a douche?
I don't know you from a hole in the wall but I'm just putting it out there.
I should have the new Noveske KX5 which I nicknamed the little piggy in my hands shortly.
Youre no doubt the same type that rides a harley with straight pipes. Let me know next time you try and work on pistol accuracy while the guy in the next lane fires an sbr with a brake on it 4 feet from your head. Its a massive concussion and its highly irritating. Either you are considerste of the guy on either side of you or youre not.
Find an empty range maybe. Yeah i think brakes at a range are for douches.
Find an empty range maybe. Yeah i think brakes at a range are for douches.
I've read a little bit on the Ferfrans CRD... looks interesting too, at least the concept is, especially for us canadians as suppressors are evile here.
Most of what I read is biased for sure tho, but I might give it a try down the road...
Most of what I read is biased for sure tho, but I might give it a try down the road...
We have separate pistol and rifle ranges at both the ranges where I am a member.
There are also dividers between each stall.
The most annoying compensator I ever felt was from a guy shooting a 1911 in .38 super comp.
When I say felt it was because my sinuses nearly started bleeding from the concussion.
Did I consider him to be inconsiderate? No because he should be able to shoot whatever he wishes just as I should be able to shoot whatever I wish along with anybody else at the range.
How about the guy shooting a 4" 460xvr should he wait till you stop trying to practice your pistol accuracy drills?
Maybe the whole range should stop shooting till you're done.
Why should people with brakes find another range?
They have as much of a right to be there as you do.
It's bad enough people build housing developments next to ranges and then complain about noise.
Now we have our own kind complaining about it.
If the sound of gunfire bothers you at a range perhaps you should take up knitting.
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Made me think of this. Yea it's annoying but it'll only make you a better shooter.
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That's pretty accurate.
The OP asked about which MD would be less annoying. I'm not trying to say that we should ban brakes on the range, only that if you don't want to be annoying, don't use one. He's concerned about not being a jackass. Those that want to be annoying as hell - have at er. Just know that you are pissing off people around you.
We're talking about muzzle climb on a .223 here, the recoil/climb is pretty much non-existent anyways (in semi-auto). If you want to be tactical, you'd keep your rifle quieter as opposed to 5X as loud. It's a mall ninja accessory IMO.
That's pretty accurate.
The OP asked about which MD would be less annoying. I'm not trying to say that we should ban brakes on the range, only that if you don't want to be annoying, don't use one. He's concerned about not being a jackass. Those that want to be annoying as hell - have at er. Just know that you are pissing off people around you.
We're talking about muzzle climb on a .223 here, the recoil/climb is pretty much non-existent anyways (in semi-auto). If you want to be tactical, you'd keep your rifle quieter as opposed to 5X as loud. It's a mall ninja accessory IMO.
Damn, no muzzle climb on a 223 semi-auto? You mean all these breaks and compensators all just gimmick and looks? Frack, we've all been wasting our money on nothing more than loudeners. Muzzle climb on double taps etc must be a psychological thing.
I've had several of the pros at our club including an IPSC grandmaster shoot the rifle comparing 3 similar brakes and all 4 of us came to the same conclusions as to which brake had the least climb, the most climb, and even one with negative climb.
If something is not for you so be it but don't be " that guy" trying to dictate to others what they can or can't use.
I agree with you that we should be considerate to other shooters. These days all it seems to take is some goofball complaining at a meeting about how loud or messy or whatever his gripe is and new rules are made to limit black rifle shooters.
I don't think we should limit which muzzle device we allow at the range but we should all take steps to avoid it becoming an issue. If you compete and need the fastest follow up shot then of course go ahead but having a brake on a 16-18 inch barrel seems to be much more comfortable to shoot than having a brake on a 10 inch or shorter and I haven't heard of a lot of serious competitors using a 7.5 inch in a competition.
People should just show a little courtesy to others and run an appropriate muzzle device for their rifle and it's intended use.
The good thing is that all that concussion gets annoying to the shooter as well and the novelty of being a douche wears off pretty quick once you start going through 100+ rounds in an afternoon.
I had a Rainier Arms mini comp on my 14.5 inch and it wasn't bad to shoot but as soon as I put it on my 12 inch it was so loud I could feel the concussion in my sinuses, I swapped it out for a triad flash hider as soon as I got home and the Mini Comp is still waiting for something more appropriate. I had it on my non restricted ACR for a while but I plan to hunt with it and don't want my ears to be ringing for hours if I have to make a quick shot without hearing protection.
Muzzle climb on a 223 is better controlled with proper hold than it is with a brake. It does make a difference but it isn't going to make much difference to the average shooter just out making noise at the range for a fun afternoon of shooting paper targets.
Let's not confuse ourselves.
"A flash suppressor mixes air with muzzle gases to reduce muzzle flash.
A brake has surfaces which deflect muzzle gases backward to reduce felt recoil.
A compensator has surfaces which deflect muzzle gases upward to reduce muzzle flip.
Many muzzle devices combine several of those functions.
An A1 "birdcage" flash suppressor is just a flash suppressor.
An A2 "half birdcage" flash suppressor is a flash suppressor combined with a compensator.
An AK74 muzzle device combines brake and compensator, but does not reduce flash."
etc."
What is needed and most logical is a sound suppressor/silencer but we can't have these for some nonsensical reason ...
You're right on a technicality
Don't confuse yourself, there is no such thing as a silencer, that's just what Hollywood and politicians call them.
If you've ever used a suppressor it only makes it quieter, it doesn't make any firearm silent even if you shoot subsonic rounds.
We can't have one because some idiot somewhere decided that the only civilians who need one are criminals and that only military/law enforcement need a suppressor.
It makes absolutely no sense at all, our sport would be so much better if we could use a suppressor, especially at the ranges that are located close to cities or where some stupid developer decided it was profitable to build a subdivision a kilometer away from a gun range that has been there for 10 years.
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Yes, I agree. The notion that a "sound suppressor/silencer" eliminates gun fire noise entirely is something that only Hollywood can make believe and the idiots that have banned them in this country are also inclined to believe.
It would make a great deal of sense to make them legal, so it is unlikely to happen.
It would make a great deal of sense to make them legal, so it is unlikely to happen.
