Pellets vs. Loose Powder

CVA & and Encore, we're just "picky" that way. under 2" groups @100yds. And also for me is, I dislike wasting the powder that spills off my measurer, it adds up, and I tend to be 'frugile' which is why I reload too. So when I go to the range I usually have about 15 or more pre-measured 35mm film canisters.
I'm normally satisfied after 6 shots,the other 9 are for playing ;).

I always store my pre measured powder in speed loaders that I premeasure at home so not sure how you'd spill any more. Truthfully, if you are shooting with a scope, I wouldn't be happy with 2" groups out of an Encore. The worst Encore I have is sub 1.5 inches and I'm still playing with loads to tighten that one up. There has been much written about weighing powder rather than measuring by volumn and truthfully, I've yet to see an in-line muzzleloader that shoots any better with weighed vs measured powder.


I've got one Omega that routinely shoots .63-.79 MOA with measured loads or pellets. I'd be doing some more playing with that Encore......2" isn't picky to me!
 
Spilling powder happens when I use my powder measure, when I pour the powder in to desired charge, then slide the spout over so I can pour it, some powder is lost. So now what Ive done is I took th eaverage of 3 measure wts. and I make allmy charges that wt.
With 97% of my shots being less than 100yds and within an 8" pie plate @ 100, 2" does perfectly for me. What works for you so be it, What works for me is just fine.
 
Spilling powder happens when I use my powder measure, when I pour the powder in to desired charge, then slide the spout over so I can pour it, some powder is lost. So now what Ive done is I took th eaverage of 3 measure wts. and I make allmy charges that wt.
With 97% of my shots being less than 100yds and within an 8" pie plate @ 100, 2" does perfectly for me. What works for you so be it, What works for me is just fine.


Sorry, most guys are just interested in getting the best out of their guns...if that's good enough for you certainly I'm not one to criticize. I just pour mine into the measure over top of a newspaper and any that spills is easily poured back into the canister.
 
If I'm shooting 300 gr. Nosler pistol bullets/90 gr. T7 right now, would I have to change to a more conical design bullet if I decided to shoot 150 gr. T7. This might sound like a dumb question but I have no experience shooting at those velocities or loads.
 
If you are talking about 150 grains of T7, ensure that is pellets and not loose. I wouldn't exceeed 125 with loose for reason outlined somewhere in this thread.

Pistol bullets are poor performers at high velocities...they were never designed to go that fast and truthfully, their performance is often marginal at time of impact. So the answer is yes, go to a bullet designed for those velocities and you'll also need a sabot designed for those velocities. You might have to try a few varieties and sizes to find the one that shoots the best out of your rifle.
 
Would you go to a lighter bullet or could I stay with a 300 gr. My muzzleloader hunting is for Whitetail and Black bear. My experience with the #00 grain bullets has been exceptional, maybe has something to do with etained energy?
 
Again, you won't know till you shoot them out of your gun but typically something in the 250-300 grain range is best.
 
Sorry, most guys are just interested in getting the best out of their guns...if that's good enough for you certainly I'm not one to criticize. I just pour mine into the measure over top of a newspaper and any that spills is easily poured back into the canister.

Ahh, seen ;)
I'm sure if I put my effort into it, I can obtain better groups lol, Next time 'Hakx' & I are out shoosting I'll accuratley measure my groups and see what I can achieve. I am presently in the process of experimenting with with cast pistol bullets, YES I am a cheap one :D
But for what it's worth it puts meat on the table which for me has put 4 deer in my freezer.
 
If I'm shooting 300 gr. Nosler pistol bullets/90 gr. T7 right now, would I have to change to a more conical design bullet if I decided to shoot 150 gr. T7. This might sound like a dumb question but I have no experience shooting at those velocities or loads.

My brother Gilly shoots 3 T7 pellets an a Barnes 290gr TMZ, He says' they work Excellent for him, good penetration and awesome expansion.
 
Ahh, seen ;)
I'm sure if I put my effort into it, I can obtain better groups lol, Next time 'Hakx' & I are out shoosting I'll accuratley measure my groups and see what I can achieve. I am presently in the process of experimenting with with cast pistol bullets, YES I am a cheap one :D
But for what it's worth it puts meat on the table which for me has put 4 deer in my freezer.

Nice buck BTW:). I especially enjoyed the "drag and stash" followed by the 4Km walk back to the truck.
 
Nice buck BTW:). I especially enjoyed the "drag and stash" followed by the 4Km walk back to the truck.

Hahaaa, what a day that was ;) But it was a short 4km walk back to the truck lol!!
There's talk that quite few fellas are buying "front-stuffers" for next years draw, they seen nothing in range for rifle :p
 
I am just getting into MLing so let me get this straight, 3 -50gr pellets of t7 is a lower charge then 150gr of loose t7. If a gun says 150gr max, 3-50gr pellets of t7 is under max load.
Sgt.
 
i finaly got my 6th muzzleloader ,and last one i hope ...THOMPSON CENTER ENCORE .changed the rear stock for the PRO HUNTER STOCK [better fit] ..as for hunting i don,t like to over study things ,keep it simple 2 pellets of 50 gr. T7 ..and a .260 grain bullet DEAD CENTER ...you are good past 100yards ..if the game does not drop you need more practice on the fire range ...
 
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