Peoples Opinions on this...

I wonder exactly how the "printing" process works??

Looks like it survived a good test. I'd like to see a Class III manufacturer try this on full auto!!!
It works quite a lot like using a hot glue gun. The nozzle goes back and forth on the X and Z axis, while the tray moves up and down on the Y axis. It just lays down very thin layers of the materials in the 3D shape required. It's a very interesting process, most civilian models these days are limited to using ABS plastic, which isn't the best material in the world, but there's also the possibility of using advanced polymers or even liquid metal. It's generally a very efficient process, slow but there is very little waste. You can do things with additive construction that you cannot do with subtractive construction, stuff like print a wheel with ball bearings inside it, or a solid hollow cube.

The technology has so much potential, not quite a Star Trek replicator, but it could conceivably get to the point where if you want a chair you load the program and set it to print before you go to bed, and when you wake up it's done including screws and other fasteners and you just need to assemble it. Want a fork, you can print a new one, need a straw so you print one of those too, along with a plate and a cup. Have an idea for something, model it out and print it. No more looking around for something that might not be manufactured anymore, break an old picture frame and print a new one rather than spending your life searching garage sales and flea markets. If something breaks you could print a replacement. With the right materials there are very few things that could not conceivably be printed, but right now a lot of the more advanced stuff is still in the prototype phase or very expensive.

Entry level printers roughly cost a bit over $500. The RepRap project is working on designing a printer that can print other printers to make them self replicating. I think they said they were at over 50% self replicating capacity as of last year.


Sci-fi has been on to the idea for decades, it could conceivably get to the point where you could start with a printer the size of a suitcase and a truck load of spools of wire, or containers of powder, or liquid, or whatever medium your material comes in, and eventually print yourself an entire house. All you'd need is the printer and the raw materials. Print some 2x4s, print some nails, print a hammer, print some insulation, print some plastic moisture barriers, print some exterior sheeting.

Sure people will look at some cheap novelty printed in ABS plastic and say it sucks and it'll never be the equal of traditional machining, but people were saying the same thing about every new technology for as long as there have been people. You can be damn sure that when NC machining first came around people were saying it was a gimmick and it'll never equal a manual machinist, and now it's taken over the market. Look at how the government barely recognizes email as a valid form of communication, and it's been around for decades now.
 
It works quite a lot like using a hot glue gun. The nozzle goes back and forth on the X and Z axis, while the tray moves up and down on the Y axis. It just lays down very thin layers of the materials in the 3D shape required. It's a very interesting process, most civilian models these days are limited to using ABS plastic, which isn't the best material in the world, but there's also the possibility of using advanced polymers or even liquid metal. It's generally a very efficient process, slow but there is very little waste. You can do things with additive construction that you cannot do with subtractive construction, stuff like print a wheel with ball bearings inside it, or a solid hollow cube.

The technology has so much potential, not quite a Star Trek replicator, but it could conceivably get to the point where if you want a chair you load the program and set it to print before you go to bed, and when you wake up it's done including screws and other fasteners and you just need to assemble it. Want a fork, you can print a new one, need a straw so you print one of those too, along with a plate and a cup. Have an idea for something, model it out and print it. No more looking around for something that might not be manufactured anymore, break an old picture frame and print a new one rather than spending your life searching garage sales and flea markets. If something breaks you could print a replacement. With the right materials there are very few things that could not conceivably be printed, but right now a lot of the more advanced stuff is still in the prototype phase or very expensive.

Entry level printers roughly cost a bit over $500. The RepRap project is working on designing a printer that can print other printers to make them self replicating. I think they said they were at over 50% self replicating capacity as of last year.


Sci-fi has been on to the idea for decades, it could conceivably get to the point where you could start with a printer the size of a suitcase and a truck load of spools of wire, or containers of powder, or liquid, or whatever medium your material comes in, and eventually print yourself an entire house. All you'd need is the printer and the raw materials. Print some 2x4s, print some nails, print a hammer, print some insulation, print some plastic moisture barriers, print some exterior sheeting.

Sure people will look at some cheap novelty printed in ABS plastic and say it sucks and it'll never be the equal of traditional machining, but people were saying the same thing about every new technology for as long as there have been people. You can be damn sure that when NC machining first came around people were saying it was a gimmick and it'll never equal a manual machinist, and now it's taken over the market. Look at how the government barely recognizes email as a valid form of communication, and it's been around for decades now.

Have you heard anything about the new processing machines, they can take plastic you have lying around (garbage, old junk etc.) and the machine converts it into something the printers can use.
 
Sure people will look at some cheap novelty printed in ABS plastic and say it sucks and it'll never be the equal of traditional machining, but people were saying the same thing about every new technology for as long as there have been people. You can be damn sure that when NC machining first came around people were saying it was a gimmick and it'll never equal a manual machinist, and now it's taken over the market.

Great post. Very interesting technology. All the uses have probably not even been thought of yet.
 
My work is getting one of these soon and they've talked with me about running it and doing some programs for jigs and prototypes. Me and a guy I work with talked about making mags. :cool:
 
Have you heard anything about the new processing machines, they can take plastic you have lying around (garbage, old junk etc.) and the machine converts it into something the printers can use.

I can imagine it. I think a few years ago a guy tried to market a machine that can break used tires down into petroleum, but I don't think he ever convinced anyone to do it. No point buying a machine to make tires into oil when we can just drill for more oil that already exists, eh?

Check this out, a complete bicycle that a company printed http://www.fastcompany.com/1736992/introducing-3-d-printed-bicycle Sure it looks like something you'd be afraid to be seen riding, but it's a freaking complete bicycle that was printed from powder and lasers! Frikken lasers!

Here's one for you, prescription lenses printed while you wait at the optometrist. Custom insoles printed in store. Gun grips sized for your exact hand and the way you hold the gun. Fenders and rims printed specifically for your car, no more waiting for six months for the next shipment from Italy. Windows and other fragile glasswork printed on site, rather than made elsewhere and then transported in. Printable disposable safety glasses. You'll never have to go to the hardware store looking for a 30"x40"0.5" panel and have to settle for using two 20"x20"x0.5" panels and trimming one down to match. Throwing a party and some extra people show up, print some plastic cups for them rather than going to see if the store has any.

Think of everything that is currently manufactured in a different style than what you want, maybe you have an old stereo that you like and the side panel cracked but the company doesn't make them like that anymore and it would cost two hundred bucks to get a machine shop to make you a custom one. Or maybe you would love to get a Glock, but the backstrap is just not quite right for you, if it had a slightly different shape it would be perfect but no one makes it like that. Print it yourself.

Look at what Magpul has done with a piece of molded plastic. That's what we can do with printed plastic and so much more.

The main downside of the technology is the convenience of prefab things. People like being able to go and buy something now, rather than having to wait, and if you're printing things one at a time it may take a very long time to make something complex. That's why we have things like entire fleets of vehicles that probably never get owned, they probably go from the factory to the dealership to the scrapyard.
 
15 years ago, the caompany I worked for hired a 3D printing company to do some proto-typing for us. Back then it was in its infancy and very expensive. When the two gentlemen from the company showed up with the parts, we were all blown away. After our meeting I casually said "This technology would be great for gun parts or magazines". One of the guys (a shooter himself and also had the same idea) said the RCMP had already contacted them about this potential. Looks like they had some concerns back then.

Fast forward to today. It is only a matter of time before someone makes something lethal and then does something stupid.

As for me, if I had the printer and the right material, SAN mags galore......5 shot of course.
 
All you geniuses claiming they are going to ban 3D printers because you can build a gun need to pull your heads out of your ass and come back to reality.

I, at this very moment, can build a fully functional automatic firearm with a suppressor using a lathe and a mill.

Are lathes and mills illegal? Additive manufacturing is just another machine tool. What you do with it is where the laws come into place. In Canada, it is perfectly legal to build a firearm. How you build it is irrelevant.
 
All you geniuses claiming they are going to ban 3D printers because you can build a gun need to pull your heads out of your ass and come back to reality.

I, at this very moment, can build a fully functional automatic firearm with a suppressor using a lathe and a mill.

Are lathes and mills illegal? Additive manufacturing is just another machine tool. What you do with it is where the laws come into place. In Canada, it is perfectly legal to build a firearm. How you build it is irrelevant.

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JK!

Also, did you see their collective trigger control? Sweet Zombie Jesus... lol
 
All you geniuses claiming they are going to ban 3D printers because you can build a gun need to pull your heads out of your ass and come back to reality.

I, at this very moment, can build a fully functional automatic firearm with a suppressor using a lathe and a mill.

Are lathes and mills illegal? Additive manufacturing is just another machine tool. What you do with it is where the laws come into place. In Canada, it is perfectly legal to build a firearm. How you build it is irrelevant.

I agree they won't get banned, but the issue isnt that you can produce a rifle at home. Its that more and more people, with less and less talent can produce it. You have to have a certain level of talent to produce that silencer/fully auto weapon. With uploading/downloading the information the entry to barrier has been significantly eroded.
 
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I agree they won't get banned, but the issue isnt that you can produce a rifle at home. Its that more and more people, will less and less talent can produce it. You have to have a certain level of talent to produce that silencer/fully auto weapon. With uploading/downloading the information the entry to barrier has been significantly eroded.

Still anybody that's going to make a gun for a crime likely can't afford the 500 or so dollars for the printer and aren't going to want to wait for it to print then have to still go buy other parts, and it's not like a ton of kids and idiots are going to be able to do it either. It's cheaper/easier for someone to just go buy a cheap black market gun. That being said it could be very lucrative to anyone in the illegal guns trade to make a ton of guns this way, but why don't we already see that with cnc machined guns?
 
Still anybody that's going to make a gun for a crime likely can't afford the 500 or so dollars for the printer and aren't going to want to wait for it to print then have to still go buy other parts, and it's not like a ton of kids and idiots are going to be able to do it either. It's cheaper/easier for someone to just go buy a cheap black market gun. That being said it could be very lucrative to anyone in the illegal guns trade to make a ton of guns this way, but why don't we already see that with cnc machined guns?

I agree with the points you raised, but for the last one; again I think 3d printing is alot easier than cnc machining. And mid level organized crime has the capability to purchase a $2000 dollar printer. As for purchasing the other parts, yeah that will be tough to do, atleast for now when those things cannot be printed.

And just to clarify I'm not for the banning of any printer or anything for that matter. A criminal with the motive will find the means. I'm just arguing that it will become easier in some ways to obtain a firearm or easier to reach that end goal. And this is what scares anti, but they always seem to be scared.
 
That being said it could be very lucrative to anyone in the illegal guns trade to make a ton of guns this way, but why don't we already see that with cnc machined guns?

Wrt CNC machined guns, it takes a very large investment, a lot of skill and a lot of experience to make them. Someone like Armedsask is not going to throw all that away to make some illegal guns and risk the consequences. 3d printing makes the barrier to entry in the "business" much lower and therefore one should expect more "plastic".
 
What is the legal implications of printing an AR receiver/lower (or any receiver)?

Is it illegal to print one?
Illegal to own one without registration?

Is it legal for conversational piece print one that is not 100% complete therefore NOT useable.
 
I agree with the points you raised, but for the last one; again I think 3d printing is alot easier than cnc machining. And mid level organized crime has the capability to purchase a $2000 dollar printer. As for purchasing the other parts, yeah that will be tough to do, atleast for now when those things cannot be printed.

And just to clarify I'm not for the banning of any printer or anything for that matter. A criminal with the motive will find the means. I'm just arguing that it will become easier in some ways to obtain a firearm or easier to reach that end goal. And this is what scares anti, but they always seem to be scared.

Why would they buy a $2000 dollar printer to make none functioning lowers? They are criminals they would just steal or smuggle the actual firearm for much cheaper.................
 
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