pet meat / per kg / your thougths?
- Thread starter WhelanLad
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Are you checking the actual regulations or the hunting synopsis?
The Wildlife Act doesn't state that a human has to eat it. The Act does state that a carcass has to be removed to the person's primary residence and butchered for future consumption, (which is new over the last couple of years I think) but that is the extent of it.
So taking a deer home and tossing it in your dog pen is illegal, taking a deer home, cutting it into easily manageable pieces and then tossing those one by one into the dog pen is legal.
yeah thats a fair call.
most non native are Pest / Vermin = Deer are technically "Game" off private property, pest inside private property as a Law was relaxed to protect livliehoods...farms..
some of our deer can only take one or two annually, those are Hog deer, limited but its coming more open for ballot an state forest public hunting.
the aussies have been shootin native kangaroo for 100 yrs to feed the dogs, so finally the deer has replaced the iconic kangaroo for pet food... even in stores this is swinging , high deer numbers , low-ish roo numbers ecept some areas.
i could talk fro days on thiss......
lets just aus.. aus has no real value for game animals, no real crazy limitations, an most animals are "pests" in one way or another.
Horses- interesting debates Alpine horses to Desert Horses..
camels
donks,
pigs
goats
I remember reading somewhere that dog food is made from horse. Mostly horses that is too old to work and the owner don't wanna pay to care for them.
They also use mustang before they got themselves on the endangered species list.
The practice may have changed as this was many many years ago.
They also use mustang before they got themselves on the endangered species list.
The practice may have changed as this was many many years ago.
In Alberta you can do the road kill café thing as long as everything is documented with the local fish and wildlife office. We got a nice fresh road kill cow moose this fall that weighed about 700 Lbs minus hide, guts and head. One front quarter had a lot of blood bruise to the meat but the rest was good. It is very important that you get proper authorization prior to loading anything in the back of the truck.
Guessing you haven't been to a horse auction then..... I would hazard a guess that 50% of the horses run through get bought by the meat buyer. They buy all the horses that meet the weight per pound threshold that they have.
Heard about it after the fact, that a spectacular mountain horse that a neighbour had went to the auction. Buddy of mine had tried to buy the horse previously for $3000 and got turned down, and that gelding ended up going for $275 for meat.
A lot of good horses end up on the killing floor. And a lot of useless horses do too, so it probably evens out.
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
Canada is one of the largest exporters of horse meat from what I understand, iirc my wife was telling me that Japan buys a lot of it from us.
Huge processing facility in Southern Alberta.
Dead horses laying about the country are inconvenient enough, think of the joys of a horse drawn city!
Lots of young horse meat goes to France. The Japanese prefer the older, more marbled ones.
- Location
- WMU247 near Edmonton
horse is good eating: but that's all I'll say about that 
now back on subject. Deer, now I hunt deer and can get 6 tags for deer without having to travel to the odd remote WMU to shoot some of the extra tags. I normally don't hunt too hard and am happy with one or 2 deer. The wife likes the loin for roast. Most of the rest gets processed into larger chunks that get turned into jerky which I eat and share with my little dogs as treats. The rest is ground up into burger, and the burger is used for chili, soups, pasta sauce, and cooked up for the dogs suppers. If we run out of deer for jerky and ground for the deer suppers we switch to beef. Now I also take the liver and that gets processed into liver jerky and I don't eat it but the dogs love it.
I see nothing in the regs that would make this illegal. Once the game animal is processed for consumption its sort of hard to tell a package of ground deer from a package of ground beef without thawing it.
now if your hunting deer with the intent that the entire animal is going for dog food I can see the COs pressing charges as there was no intent to consume any of the animal.
now back on subject. Deer, now I hunt deer and can get 6 tags for deer without having to travel to the odd remote WMU to shoot some of the extra tags. I normally don't hunt too hard and am happy with one or 2 deer. The wife likes the loin for roast. Most of the rest gets processed into larger chunks that get turned into jerky which I eat and share with my little dogs as treats. The rest is ground up into burger, and the burger is used for chili, soups, pasta sauce, and cooked up for the dogs suppers. If we run out of deer for jerky and ground for the deer suppers we switch to beef. Now I also take the liver and that gets processed into liver jerky and I don't eat it but the dogs love it.
I see nothing in the regs that would make this illegal. Once the game animal is processed for consumption its sort of hard to tell a package of ground deer from a package of ground beef without thawing it.
now if your hunting deer with the intent that the entire animal is going for dog food I can see the COs pressing charges as there was no intent to consume any of the animal.
We were getting 2.50 a kilo for Billies and 3.50 for nannies in NZ. That was prepped for human consumption and on the boned out weight; with the boning done at the processing plant. Quite the procedure there; selected organs had to stay in place for inspection.
Did some pet meating in OZ; but don’t have a clue what the spread was over the commercial rate we paid. It was a fun way to lose money though. If you’re into that sort of thing.
Did some pet meating in OZ; but don’t have a clue what the spread was over the commercial rate we paid. It was a fun way to lose money though.
If you’re into that sort of thing.$2 - $2.40 is what the deer harvesters are getting in similiar fashion, guts out offal/ heart lungs n ####/ in, head on too......
things have changed or are a little different but its basically taken off the two pro industries already in Roo and Pig 'chiller' rules and regs......
i think the farmer gets around .50c per kg of that.................
now theres two mobs taken the Deer here, ones to do with the "big mob" an the other is goin from our knackery, to another knackery near melbourne, then shipped to somewhere?!
the dilemma in setting up properly is the cost of the 'hook cage' being all stainless and it passing the regs., around $5k for the cage to hang yer carcases.
then a thermal scope $6k , so yer lookin at needing to kill alot of Deers before ya even get going, in a very unstable industry.
this what ya read above, is all back yard cuts
things have changed or are a little different but its basically taken off the two pro industries already in Roo and Pig 'chiller' rules and regs......
i think the farmer gets around .50c per kg of that.................
now theres two mobs taken the Deer here, ones to do with the "big mob" an the other is goin from our knackery, to another knackery near melbourne, then shipped to somewhere?!
the dilemma in setting up properly is the cost of the 'hook cage' being all stainless and it passing the regs., around $5k for the cage to hang yer carcases.
then a thermal scope $6k , so yer lookin at needing to kill alot of Deers before ya even get going, in a very unstable industry.
this what ya read above, is all back yard cuts
I can’t believe any hunter thinks it’s ok to feed wild deer to dogs. I got in a verbal match with an Indian that was shooting cow elk in May for dog food. How is this respecting wild life? It is illegal and should be. Give meat you don’t want to those that do. Thanks
when i was a kid in the 80s we had in supermarket antelope meat from australia ... guess they did not sell only for pets lol ... was always laughing at eating roos ...over bbq.
firstly you would need to understand the differences in not only Countries but also the Native status alot of You Elks and Mooses and Bear have, unlike Convic Island Australia.... nothing heres not feral including the convict community , with all due respect i leave the native indigenous somewhat out of this.... but mostly every other Animal is from Noahs Ark and the Govt dont do a whole lot about it until recently, allowing hunters oppertunity to get into land to hunt the "pest deers"
before deers were here, the kangaroos were Dog 'Tucker' any day of the week if in the back paddock with a rifle , an thats not my personal experience but that is what has gone on for 80 odd? years through the country Aus with natives, so thankfully something has given the local Native animals some relief....now a Deer is a dime a dozen, its perfectly utilised as dog food rather than Poisoned or Culled and left to rot in front of my eyes..
LEts not argue on this.... im cool, your cool... it is what it is.
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Yes, Whelenlad, you asked a perfectly reasonable question, about an Australian topic poorly understood in Canada. Most Canadian hunters have difficulty imagining that deer are actually an invasive pest species in Australia, and that utilizing and selling the meat for pet food is a positive social / ecological thing there. Just for mutual harmony and understanding, I completely agree with those who say shooting Canadian game to feed dogs is not OK. It is a wasteful, disrespectful practise here.
