Philippines made?

Bobbyv8

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been doing some research lately on my Bushnell legend and many people are saying Philippines made are on par with japan made...any of you guys have experience with Philippines made optics?? this surprised me since im a big fan of almost anything made in japan.
 
Burris's lower end scopes are made in the Phillipines and seem to be good quality. But you can't really judge quality on place of manufacture alone. A large country like China can make anything you want from low end junk to high quality. It all depends on the price and specifications. I suspect the Phillipines is the same, you could order cheap junk or reasonable quality and it depends on the price and details.
 
My Nikon was made in the Phillipines, and it is a very good scope and has held up well. Quality is quality, and just because something was made in a certain country doesn't always make it good. There are many things made in Canada and the US that are poorly made because the manufacturer has poor quality control and low manufacturing standards.
 
China's is capable of producing world class products, on par with the very best, virtually every major multinational company has transferred their manufacturing technology and knowledge to China in one form or another, China has been underestimated before and that turned out to be a monumental mistake on part of the West.
 
Anyone remember when "Made in Japan" was pretty much a joke and synonymous with inferior quality? I remember toy cars as a kid that were made in japan, and when you looked inside through the windows, they were made from old soup cans and still had the painted on soup can labels on the inside. Things that were made in japan seemed to be held together with rubber bands, very gimmicky, and broke quickly. How things change.
 
I've got and sold an awful lot of scopes over the years, I currently have Austrian, German, American, and Japanese scopes, and my fav's are a Habicht Swaro. pro-hunter, steel scope made in Austria and my different Leupold Competition scopes of 36X and a new 40X. Older US scopes such as Unertl are also the bee's knees and are classics. The Japanese Bushnells including a few 6500s I own I would rank next along with the few Weaver 36X I have...all these scopes have never given any grief and are very easy to use, not what I have seen from other makes.
 
Bare in mind some companies dont 'make' the whole scope in one spot, lenses from here, tubes from there etc. In some cases the phillipines are used for an assembly point as the labour is cheaper. And that all said, you can make crap anywhere, regardless of the nation.
 
Bare in mind some companies dont 'make' the whole scope in one spot, lenses from here, tubes from there etc. In some cases the phillipines are used for an assembly point as the labour is cheaper. And that all said, you can make crap anywhere, regardless of the nation.

that was what I was getting at. now that Leupold is making scopes in China and the ones that are assembled in the U.S. are using a lot of chinese parts.. are they still an 'american' scope?
 
The problem with Asian manufacturers is quality control. You can get excellent, top quality machining from one factory, and piss poor from another next door.
 
The problem with Asian manufacturers is quality control. You can get excellent, top quality machining from one factory, and piss poor from another next door.

Poor quality control would be one manufacturer with inconsistent quality, not variation in quality between different manufacturers.

My understanding is that many Asian optics makers build scopes to the specification and price point of the buyer. This means they will build anything from cheap junk to top of the line, depending on what Nikon, Bushnell, or whomever specifies. There is no real direct correlation between country of origin and quality.
 
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