I think 'somebody' may have spent a great deal of effort cleaning it up since then....
You know it brother, and one is never "finished" a restoration.
I think 'somebody' may have spent a great deal of effort cleaning it up since then....
My YT feed lately has suggested audiobooks of WW2 German's biographies and memoires. A common theme of the Eastern front veterans was how they expected the Allies to turn on the "Bolsheviks" immediately. The German formations would be rebuilt and wrapped into a surging tide to push back the Reds. They also talk about the secret weapons programs, like the V1 and V2, the rocket bombers, and the supertanks. The myths were strong, until the truth was brought home.
One f my neighbors, a former Panzergrenadier, confirmed this story. They were ordered to turn in their weapons so they could be outfitted with standardized American weapons to go fight the Russians. I suspect the fear was that if they couldn't be made to believe something like that, a lot of them would keep their weapons and maybe even go on fighting.
When you think about it, it's not too far-fetched. That's pretty much what NATO is about
My YT feed lately has suggested audiobooks of WW2 German's biographies and memoires. A common theme of the Eastern front veterans was how they expected the Allies to turn on the "Bolsheviks" immediately. The German formations would be rebuilt and wrapped into a surging tide to push back the Reds. They also talk about the secret weapons programs, like the V1 and V2, the rocket bombers, and the supertanks. The myths were strong, until the truth was brought home.
One f my neighbors, a former Panzergrenadier, confirmed this story. They were ordered to turn in their weapons so they could be outfitted with standardized American weapons to go fight the Russians. I suspect the fear was that if they couldn't be made to believe something like that, a lot of them would keep their weapons and maybe even go on fighting.
When you think about it, it's not too far-fetched. That's pretty much what NATO is about
Amazing how quickly the Allies turned around, snatching Germany's best scientists for their own use. Paton even had ex Nazis administrating the country. Werner von Braun, among others, fit the profile of a war criminal, yet he put the Americans on the moon.
Grizz
Amazing how quickly the Allies turned around, snatching Germany's best scientists for their own use. Paton even had ex Nazis administrating the country. Werner von Braun, among others, fit the profile of a war criminal, yet he put the Americans on the moon.
Grizz
if the 'mericans didn't grab them the commies would. would you like them designing weapons for the commies?
Amazing how quickly the Allies turned around, snatching Germany's best scientists for their own use. Paton even had ex Nazis administrating the country. Werner von Braun, among others, fit the profile of a war criminal, yet he put the Americans on the moon.
Grizz
I asked my German inlaws about ex-Nazis sympathizers and party members running the post-war country and they said - "Well, somebody had to do it and if they could do it for Hitler under war time conditions, why not now?". It really p!ssed off my late Panzer Grenadier father-in-law who didn't come back from captivity until 1951. Many came back even years later.
if the 'mericans didn't grab them the commies would. would you like them designing weapons for the commies?
Actually, it was a race, the commies got their share as well.
Actually, it was a race, the commies got their share as well.
And if one had a "scorched earth" mindset, one could have tried them with the other war criminals at Nuremburg and sent them either to the gallows or Spandau. But that'd be the waste of a perfectly good scientist, and one must keep the long game in mind when playing global politics.
And so the Allies forgave people who weren't worthy of it. Crazy ol' Rudy Hess spent his life in prison, Fat Hermann cheated the gallows...
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...and Good Old Werner got to ride with the President before they figured out convertibles and Presidents aren't a great combo.
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Dirty fvcking business, this.
30,000 98ks after surrender of German forces in Norway.
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In a news conference held before the launch of the first Saturn V rocket, Werner von Braun was asked what were the odds that it wouldn't land on London.
God I hope there’s a video of that, when the world was better and they called it like it was and didnt beat around the bush and journalists didn’t follow the narrative
If the US got von Braun...what scientists went to Russia?