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Chinese peasants kneeling before Japanese soldiers, 1937-1945.


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Piles of dead Japanese soldiers in Attu, Alaska, during a last ditch attempt with a banzai charge. Out of the 2,500 Japanese soldiers in this battle, only 29 survived, May 30, 1943. Attu is the only land battle in which Japanese and American forces fought in snowy conditions.

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American airman Dewey Wayne Waddell, held prisoner in Vietnam poses in a propaganda photo, 1967. He survived captivity and was released in March 4, 1973.

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Piles of dead Japanese soldiers in Attu, Alaska, during a last ditch attempt with a banzai charge. Out of the 2,500 Japanese soldiers in this battle, only 29 survived, May 30, 1943. Attu is the only land battle in which Japanese and American forces fought in snowy conditions.


Survived is the wrong term, they didn't succeed in killing themselves would be more appropriate. Fanaticism like that is one of the reasons Truman decided to us the atomic bomb.

Grizz
 
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1943-2021

When the Japanese withdrew from Kiska in July 1943, each mini sub was scuttled by the detonation of an internal explosive charge that blew the hull onward.
Japanese Type A Midget Submarine, Kiska Island, Aleutian Islands, Alaska
 
Piles of dead Japanese soldiers in Attu, Alaska, during a last ditch attempt with a banzai charge. Out of the 2,500 Japanese soldiers in this battle, only 29 survived, May 30, 1943. Attu is the only land battle in which Japanese and American forces fought in snowy conditions.

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One has to wonder if a more conventional " fire and movement" attack (sustained until everyone was gone) would have been more successful.

Regardless, it's a waste of brave infantry
 
One has to wonder if a more conventional " fire and movement" attack (sustained until everyone was gone) would have been more successful.

Regardless, it's a waste of brave infantry

Fire and movement involves first winning the fire fight. If they had managed that, you would have had a different outcome.

Given what that brave infantry did with civilians in Nanking and elsewhere, prisoners of war, etc, I think that's a perfect end to that particular infantry.
 
Fire and movement involves first winning the fire fight. If they had managed that, you would have had a different outcome.

Given what that brave infantry did with civilians in Nanking and elsewhere, prisoners of war, etc, I think that's a perfect end to that particular infantry.

Ahem brother Rick, ahem.
 
Given what that brave infantry did with civilians in Nanking and elsewhere, prisoners of war, etc, I think that's a perfect end to that particular infantry.

There is a video on youtube that gives a pretty good explenation on why japanese soldiers acted the way they did during ww2 and it really underscores why they deserved the stomping that Japan got. It on the ww2 channel under their war on humanity series.
 
Given what that brave infantry did with civilians in Nanking and elsewhere, prisoners of war, etc, I think that's a perfect end to that particular infantry.

Yes, you are correct of course.
I suppose blind fanaticism leads to reprehensible behaviour (Nanking, POW's) and the willingness to throw ones' life away (?bravery)
Something that the Japanese leadership/society had no trouble with , wasting even their own men.
 
Yes, you are correct of course.
I suppose blind fanaticism leads to reprehensible behaviour (Nanking, POW's) and the willingness to throw ones' life away (?bravery)
Something that the Japanese leadership/society had no trouble with , wasting even their own men.

Check out Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History Podcast and the Supernova in the East series. It delves into this question and the culture that lead to these atrocities.
 
There is a group of war survivors called 'Wolf children.' Mainly lost Volkes Deutsch orphans who were considered stateless after WWII after the unwanted populations fled from East Prussia. These children were abandoned.

It has been deemed desireable to supress these people and any talk of them by both the German government and other governments. This holds true even up to now.

They will be ignored even after the last of them are gone.

https://m.dw.com/en/german-wolf-children-the-forgotten-orphans-of-wwii/a-41214994
 
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There is a group of war survivors called 'Wolf children.' Mainly lost Volkes Deutsch orphans who were considered stateless after WWII after the unwanted populations fled from East Prussia. These children were abandoned.

It has been deemed desireable to supress these people and any talk of them by both the German government and other governments. This holds true even up to now.

They will be ignored even after the last of them are gone.

https://m.dw.com/en/german-wolf-children-the-forgotten-orphans-of-wwii/a-41214994

I knew a couple, they both ended up in England in service positions, married and moved to Canada, where they lived long productive lives, but they had no past .

Grizz
 
The tiny grey kitten mascot of the Polish Navy destroyer ORP Piorun had her thrills in the battle against the German battleship Bismarck. Her ship was the first to open fire during the chase, during which she was almost washed overboard.

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Check out Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History Podcast and the Supernova in the East series. It delves into this question and the culture that lead to these atrocities.

YES! And his long series on WWI can lead to clinical depression. A really engaging historian. Didn't have a problem with getting drowsy on long road trips behind the wheel listening to any of his series.
 
YES! And his long series on WWI can lead to clinical depression. A really engaging historian. Didn't have a problem with getting drowsy on long road trips behind the wheel listening to any of his series.

I very much enjoy Dan Carlin's work, but I find his James T. Kirk delivery style a little frustrating - he speaks softly for a bit, and then quite loudly for quotes... I turn it up to hear what he's saying, and then get blown out a minute later. :)
 
The tiny grey kitten mascot of the Polish Navy destroyer ORP Piorun had her thrills in the battle against the German battleship Bismarck. Her ship was the first to open fire during the chase, during which she was almost washed overboard.

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BTW, Piorun is Polish for lightning, and If I remember correctly, a synonym for Thor.....
 
One has to wonder if a more conventional " fire and movement" attack (sustained until everyone was gone) would have been more successful.

Regardless, it's a waste of brave infantry

Perhaps read this (https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/battle-of-attu-60-years.htm); the Japanese casualties weren't entirely the result of poor tactics - at the end it was intentionally suicidal. Pretty miserable conditions .. just surviving the environment took extraordinary effort.
 
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