A Russian guided missile cruiser that ain't no more.
Grizz
Looks like it is transitting the Bosphorus in Instanbul.
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Looks like it is transitting the Bosphorus in Instanbul.
Yes. I've been across it several times.
USS Phoenix
Apparently there is a treaty that Turkey has invoked that would prevent them from replacing it from outside the Black Sea.
Grizz
The Montreux Agreement prohibits warships from using the Bosphorus in time of war.
Both times I crossed, there was a traffic jam that held everyone up for hours.
A Russian guided missile cruiser that ain't no more.
Grizz
Wonder how much those hanging anchors swing in rough seas? Unless the anchor shanks fits into a tight fitting wells. Anyone know how thick the large the 16 missile tubes are. Must be easy to ignite if those tubes don't have any armor.
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Well the Russians say they are fine. After the unexplained fire they evacuated the ship which then suck while under tow. Sounds like there weren’t any casualties.
In open water the anchors would be stowed. Having them swing wildly in weather is a non starter. The missile tubes are not that think and inside are tons of fuel, explosives and metals that burn. Add to that a lack of fire fighting ability and large open spaces inside the ship plus locked up life saving gear and painted over hydrants etc etc and .....we'll we know the result. Perhaps 60 survivors.
Name Slava class
Builders 61 Communards Shipyard, Mykolaiv
Operators
Soviet Navy
Russian Navy
Preceded by Kara class
Succeeded by Lider class
Built 1976–1990
In service 1982–present
Planned 10[1]
Completed 3
Cancelled 6
Active 2
Laid up 1 (construction incomplete)
Lost 1 (Moskva)
General characteristics
Type Guided missile cruiser
Displacement
9,380 tons standard
11,490 tons full load
Length 186.4 m (611 ft 7 in)
Beam 20.8 m (68 ft 3 in)
Draught 8.4 m (27 ft 7 in)
Propulsion COGOG GTU M21 2 × M70 cruise gas turbines and 4 × M90 boost gas turbines, 2 cruise steam turbines, 2 exhaust gas boilers, 4 × M8KF Gas turbines, 2 Shafts, 130,000 shp (97,000 kW)
Speed 32 kn (59 km/h; 37 mph) (36.8mph)
Range 3,000 nmi (3,450 mi) (5,560 km) at 18kn (20.7mph)
Complement 485 (66 Off, 419 WO/Enl),[1] alternate information 476-529 (84 Off, 75 WO, 370 Enl)[2]
Sensors and
processing systems
Radar: MR-800 Voshkod/Top Pair 3-D long range air search, MR-700 Fregat/Top Steer (first two) or MR-710 Fregat-MA/Top Plate (second two) 3-D air search
Sonar: MG-332 Tigan-2T/Bull Nose hull mounted LF, Platina/Horse Tail MF VDS
Fire Control: 3R41 Volna/Top Dome SA-N-6 SAM control, MPZ-301 Baza/Pop Group SA-N-4 SAM control, Argument/Front Door-C SSM control
Electronic warfare
& decoys Kol'cho suite with Gurzhor-A&B/Side Globe intercept, MR-404/Rum Tub jammers, Bell Crown intercept, Bell Push intercept, 2 PK-2 decoy RL, 12 PK-10 decoy RL (in last two units only)
Armament
Missiles:
16 (8 × 2) P-1000 Vulcan (SS-N-12 Sandbox) anti-ship missiles
64 (8 × 8) S-300F Fort (SA-N-6 Grumble) long-range surface-to-air missiles
40 (2 × 20) OSA-M (SA-N-4 Gecko) SR SAM
Guns:
1 twin AK-130 130mm/L70 dual purpose guns
6 × 1 AK-630 close-in weapons systems
Torpedoes and others:
2 × 12 RBU-6000 anti-submarine mortars
10 (2 × 5) 533mm torpedo tubes
Armor Splinter plating *
Aircraft carried 1 Kamov Ka-25 or Kamov Ka-27 Helicopter
*not exactly very reassuring for the crew.
https://youtu.be/DmxJsRy4ty0
Builders 61 Communards Shipyard, Mykolaiv
Operators
Soviet Navy
Russian Navy
Preceded by Kara class
Succeeded by Lider class
Built 1976–1990
In service 1982–present
Planned 10[1]
Completed 3
Cancelled 6
Active 2
Laid up 1 (construction incomplete)
Lost 1 (Moskva)
General characteristics
Type Guided missile cruiser
Displacement
9,380 tons standard
11,490 tons full load
Length 186.4 m (611 ft 7 in)
Beam 20.8 m (68 ft 3 in)
Draught 8.4 m (27 ft 7 in)
Propulsion COGOG GTU M21 2 × M70 cruise gas turbines and 4 × M90 boost gas turbines, 2 cruise steam turbines, 2 exhaust gas boilers, 4 × M8KF Gas turbines, 2 Shafts, 130,000 shp (97,000 kW)
Speed 32 kn (59 km/h; 37 mph) (36.8mph)
Range 3,000 nmi (3,450 mi) (5,560 km) at 18kn (20.7mph)
Complement 485 (66 Off, 419 WO/Enl),[1] alternate information 476-529 (84 Off, 75 WO, 370 Enl)[2]
Sensors and
processing systems
Radar: MR-800 Voshkod/Top Pair 3-D long range air search, MR-700 Fregat/Top Steer (first two) or MR-710 Fregat-MA/Top Plate (second two) 3-D air search
Sonar: MG-332 Tigan-2T/Bull Nose hull mounted LF, Platina/Horse Tail MF VDS
Fire Control: 3R41 Volna/Top Dome SA-N-6 SAM control, MPZ-301 Baza/Pop Group SA-N-4 SAM control, Argument/Front Door-C SSM control
Electronic warfare
& decoys Kol'cho suite with Gurzhor-A&B/Side Globe intercept, MR-404/Rum Tub jammers, Bell Crown intercept, Bell Push intercept, 2 PK-2 decoy RL, 12 PK-10 decoy RL (in last two units only)
Armament
Missiles:
16 (8 × 2) P-1000 Vulcan (SS-N-12 Sandbox) anti-ship missiles
64 (8 × 8) S-300F Fort (SA-N-6 Grumble) long-range surface-to-air missiles
40 (2 × 20) OSA-M (SA-N-4 Gecko) SR SAM
Guns:
1 twin AK-130 130mm/L70 dual purpose guns
6 × 1 AK-630 close-in weapons systems
Torpedoes and others:
2 × 12 RBU-6000 anti-submarine mortars
10 (2 × 5) 533mm torpedo tubes
Armor Splinter plating *
Aircraft carried 1 Kamov Ka-25 or Kamov Ka-27 Helicopter
*not exactly very reassuring for the crew.
https://youtu.be/DmxJsRy4ty0
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That's a slippery slope.
Fires and explosions on a warship, well, any ship really, and no casualties? You'll have to excuse my disbelief.
Back to pics:
Stacked rifles, Peterburg, Virginia, sometime during the Civil War. Note the "Ghost" soldier in the left of the frame. Photography was still in its early days, and required long enough exposures for someone to walk into, and out of, frame.
I was poking fun at Russian propaganda. They probably suffered 90% casualties and just lied about it. Putin seems to repeating the tried and true tactic of the motherland … attrition at the expense of Human Resources.
