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Grizzly Adams said:
According to the Rhodesians, the Portuguese were just putting in time. :)

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Depends on when that pic was taken.

When I was there, that wasn't the case. Maybe towards the end of the conflict???? The Portuguese in Angola were both born and raised there as well as shipped in from Portugal. Just like Canada, back in the day many of the Colonials didn't consider themselves to be Angolan. That was a strange but very ugly war that went on for far to long. IMHO in the north east provinces it's still happening but more on a BANDIT level.

The South Africans and Rhodesians I met were mostly insurgents. It wasn't until later in the war, when it was to late to make a difference that they came in. They both supplied groups like the FNLA and UNITA which IMHO were nothing more than rogue criminal orgs out for themselves instead of a unified nation.

If the paras the Rhodesians witnessed were just putting in time, it's because they knew it was a lost cause and didn't want to get killed to save political face. The world had already judged Portugal in that conflict. Much of which they brought onto themselves. They ran a brutal regime like many others including South Africa and Rhodesia.

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And yet this study proves that prolonged noise exposure does increase fatigue, response time etc

http://www.noiseandhealth.org/artic...=1;issue=1;spage=47;epage=55;aulast=Kjellberg

Maybe you're misinterpreting the Harvard study? Loud noise to the point that it's vibrating your insides is not the problem, endless hours of it is what causes fatigue.

Sharps '74 said:
How do you explain the fact that the loud noise did not affect the Harvard shooters. In fact, their scores went up during the test and back down following.

I've been at a music festival where the noise level caused the clothing over your chest to pulsate. I had to wear ear plugs and the noise was still offensive. A woman had her bay with her and when the band stuck up, the kid jumped and screamed. Other women present told her in no uncertain terms to get the kid out of there - ASAP!
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Pictures, gentlemen?

We all recall the T-33 in its many forms. A real success story for Lockheed and the Industrial Military Complex, et al.. Maybe you even have one on a stick in your hometown.

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But how many of us are familiar with the follow-on, Boeing's attempt to modernize that first-generation trainer into something very late-disco-era?

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Behold, the slightly blurry but way-modern Skyfox (ex-RCAF CT-133 21160):

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If you squint, you can see the old design in there, but this was a pretty thorough makeover. This from Wikipedia:

Over 6,500 Lockheed T-33 trainers were built, making it one of the most successful jet trainer programs in history. However, technology passed the "T-Bird" by, and by the 1980s, it was clear that the world's air forces needed a more modern training aircraft. The "Skyfox" was conceived and developed by Russell O'Quinn. The modification designs were led by T-33 designer Irvin Culver and a number of other former Lockheed employees formed Flight Concepts Incorporated in 1982, with the intent of modernizing the T-33 design. The company's name was later changed to Skyfox Corporation.

The highly modified and modernized aircraft was expected to cost about half of a new comparable trainer, such as the BAE Hawk and Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jet. With the design work done, Skyfox purchased 80 surplus T-33s.

The Skyfox was marketed either as a complete converted aircraft from Boeing, or as a conversion kit, with the customer providing the T-33 airframe. The conversion incorporated about 70% of the existing T-33 airframe, but replaced the existing internal single Allison J33 turbojet engine with two Garrett TFE731-3A turbofan engines mounted externally. Together, the two TFE731s weighed 17% less than the single original engine, while providing 60% more thrust on 45% less fuel.[citation needed]

The engine change provided a large internal volume for fuel storage, eliminating the need for the T-33's wingtip tanks, but tip mountings were retained to accommodate optional auxiliary fuel tanks if desired.

Other modifications included inboard wing leading-edge extensions, the replacement of the tip tanks with winglets, a new canopy with one-piece windshield, revised nose geometry to improve visibility from the cockpit and to fair into the T-33's lateral intakes, new tail surfaces with a mid-set tailplane (although the original wings were retained), and new avionics.
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Should have been a good seller, but wasn't. Only one built. One of a great many "shouldabeens".
 
Dark Alley Dan said:
Pictures, gentlemen?

We all recall the T-33 in its many forms. A real success story for Lockheed and the Industrial Military Complex, et al.. Maybe you even have one on a stick in your hometown.

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The one that was sitting at the Legion here in Leduc was repainted and moved over by the pond by the QE2 Hwy. Now can be visible from both North and South bound traffic traveling by our town.
 
My FIL was an RCAF instructor in Gimli, Edmonton, Portage, flew Sabres in Germany, and likely flew nearly every T-33 they had.
The ones in Winnipeg and Portage for sure. He was "retired" in 1966, as F/L.
 
I remember when a t bird crashed down home. RIP pilot.
I also remember them towing targets off Halifax for navy target shooting. One of my first jobs at at sea was resetting the A/C after they would trip under the 3"50's recoil. My molars are still loose.
Be well
 
Ganderite said:
According to this picture, this style of hat was used around 1900. So I am assuming it is a Boer War relic.

https://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/boer/boerwarhistory_e.shtml

This picture is purported to be Canadians in Africa. What rifle is that? Hat looks similar to gramp's.

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Apparently a lot of Regiments that served in South Africa wore a 'Slouch' Hat ... I think more common with mounted units but I even came across a photo of Black Watch wearing them. BTW was your grandfather in the Cdn Forces in South Africa or British? I had assumed British (as in Bath) but if Canadian there is another possibility and that is the ' 1st Regiment Prince Of Wales' Fusiliers' ... if so, it is possible that the bottom part of the cap badge on the hat is 'missing in action'?? .... if you look at the retaining slider on the pic of the hat sitting on the fire logs ... it extends quite a bit lower than I would expect - is it possible that a section of the badge broke off at some point? and the complete badge looked like the Prince of Wales Regiment of Fusiliers .... of which a number of unit members served with/were attached to several units in S Africa.... any way this is another angle to consider..

(see here at the bottom of page for reference to service in South Africa by members of the 1st Regt Prince of Wales' Fusiliers .. http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/history/wars/boerwar.htm) to add -- the section of the cap badge with the crown, the motto and the plumes is a separate piece and would have been attached to the bottom bronze/brass portion during manufacture
 
Somewhere there is a picture of him in front of a tent. I see to recall a Long Lee. maybe the hat is there too.

When WW1 broke out, he left Winnipeg, returned to England and joined a British regiment. I think for the Boer War he had not yet emigrated here, so it would have been a British (same) outfit.
 
sail32 said:
I had Veterans who had fought in North Africa in my regiment.

On Remembrance Day, we had Veterans from the Boer War on parade.
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My great-grandfather fought with the Strathcona's in the Boer War. Apparently the pay and food was more regular than being a saddle tramp on the Canadian prairies at the time, otherwise a fairly miserable experience. Like a lot of "colonial" soldiers, he spent the latter part of the war relegated to being a guard at one of the concentration camps, keeping an eye on Dutch farmers. That last bit is dropped from many of the "official" histories of guts and glory from the Boer war.

The statue of the mounted soldier in Central Memorial Park in Calgary was actually a monument to the prairie boys who went off to serve Queen and Country in the Boer War. Everyone assumes it's WWI,

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How come that statue hasn't been removed as it it represents oppression of a people by a Colonial power? Somebody is asleep at the politically correct switch.
 
bdft said:
Pretty hard to oppress a Dutchman. A lot of times they don't even notice.
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They definitely notice. They just bide their time until the opportunity to make things right arises.

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bdft said:
Pretty hard to oppress a Dutchman. A lot of times they don't even notice.
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The Dutch in South Africa were made of sterner stuff. They gave the British Army, which out-numbered them by a wide margin, a heck of a run. Really, it was the camps that won the war for the British. While the men were off sniping the British, the British rounded up the all the Dutch women, children, elderly, and threw them into camps and fed them just enough to keep them alive. The Boer's got the hint, and it brought them to the negotiating table.

The Boer War was a nasty affair on all sides, and everyone involved was fairly happy for most of it to end up in the dustbin of history once it was all done.
 
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