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The first jet air liner was the Canadian AVRO Jetliner, I believe.

TCA wouldn't buy it as they were happy with their piston engine fleet. Defence Minister C.D. Howe wanted to step up production of the Sabre for the Korean War and of course the Americans were not going to buy a foreign made aircraft.

So the Jetliner went the way of the Arrow.
 
The RCAF flew a pair of Comets. My father commented several times about how smooth and quiet it was. Of course, he was used to flying the North Star.

The Jetliner and the Arrow upset me every time they get mentioned.

We should at least have a few left in the museum if flying condition.
 
Thank You Sharps..didn't know that...

The first jet air liner was the Canadian AVRO Jetliner, I believe.

TCA wouldn't buy it as they were happy with their piston engine fleet. Defence Minister C.D. Howe wanted to step up production of the Sabre for the Korean War and of course the Americans were not going to buy a foreign made aircraft.
So the Jetliner went the way of the Arrow.

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Wow... Just read this...Guess the Liberal's been Do'n us Dry for a long long time.
Avro recalled the Jetliner back to Toronto and cancelled any further development of the aircraft so they could focus on their CF-100 fighter plane development for the Korean War.

Hughes responded by saying he’d buy the rights to build the plane at Convair in the United States, but again, Avro had to deny Hughes his request at the insistence of powerful Liberal cabinet minister C.D. Howe, who demanded the Jetliner program be cancelled. A second prototype under construction was soon scrapped, and the once-heralded original Jetliner was relegated as an aerial survey and photo mule for the CF-100 project.

Gotta read it all here King: Before the Avro Arrow came the Canadian Jetliner — and Howard Hughes

After... you'll understand why I think SNC-Lavalin also repaired runways in Malton Ontario.....
 
The first jet air liner was the Canadian AVRO Jetliner, I believe.

TCA wouldn't buy it as they were happy with their piston engine fleet. Defence Minister C.D. Howe wanted to step up production of the Sabre for the Korean War and of course the Americans were not going to buy a foreign made aircraft.

So the Jetliner went the way of the Arrow.

Just an opinion but why would the Americans buy a foreign made aircraft? All they had to do was use their influence (and maybe a few payouts to certain politicians of the time) to have the complete program scrapped, destroy the aircraft and paperwork, then hire the people who designed and built it.
Someone, Please tell me I'm wrong and that there could never be any payouts/corruption involved in our government, especially when it comes to aircraft or military issues.
 
Just an opinion but why would the Americans buy a foreign made aircraft? All they had to do was use their influence (and maybe a few payouts to certain politicians of the time) to have the complete program scrapped, destroy the aircraft and paperwork, then hire the people who designed and built it.
Someone, Please tell me I'm wrong and that there could never be any payouts/corruption involved in our government, especially when it comes to aircraft or military issues.

Your Wrong!...Opps...no wait...I say that again in 20 days....:redface:
 
Taste is indeed relative. Not everyone agrees that Sophia Loren is the ultimate beauty either. They're wrong, of course. :)

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There isn't a straight line on the Connie. It's all swoops and curvature. It's a lovely thing, just like The Sophia, and I like her proportions. Not seeing the funny humps you mention - are you thinking of her shoulders behind the cockpit?

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Yup the one behind the cockpit and the one on the underside towards the rear. Depends on the angle you view from. The one above a good look straight from the side not do much. Now a MK9 Spitfire is just spot on no matter which way you look at it. Maybe I am more of a fighter guy. Not really a fan of a lot of the planes that show up on the "best looking" lists.
 
I would agree...Of coarse another younger beauty (by 8 days) would have to be Brigitte Bardot she is also showing fine lines.:)

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There isn't a straight line on this Comet either. It would still hold it's own with modern airliners with it's elegant lines. A lovely thing, just like Brigitte with or without funny humps.


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I agree about the Comet, pity about the square windows making them crash. And BB yes very nice.
 
Yup the one behind the cockpit and the one on the underside towards the rear. Depends on the angle you view from. The one above a good look straight from the side not do much. Now a MK9 Spitfire is just spot on no matter which way you look at it. Maybe I am more of a fighter guy. Not really a fan of a lot of the planes that show up on the "best looking" lists.

Well there's absolutely nothing wrong with a Spitfire from any angle. You and I are 100% in alignment on that one, mate. :) Although the Mk. 9T is coming close to not being attractive...

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And as we're on a cheesecake jag just now, I thing Claudia Cardinale should be on any reasonable list of Most Beautiful Women:

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Anyhow, military pics. Here's Johnny Turk and friends, on maneuvers in 1940. Note the antiquated kit. One wonders how they would have done had they been dragged into the fray.

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When I was a kid in Sea Cadets our CO was a WW1 Royal Navy vet who had served in the Dardanelles. He used to enjoy telling us how the Turkish POWs aboard ship each had a tin can and a length of string that they would use to get sea water to wash their a$$es. We were fascinated by the story, no matter how many times he told it.;)
 
Mitchell was asked how the elliptical wings of the Spitfire came to be. He said all he was concerned with was making the wings wide enough to cover the guns!

He was also not enamored of the name "Spitfire".

"Skeets" Ogilvie talks about this in his book "Spitfire Luck", a better read than the autobiography by Billy Bishop's son. Bishop's book has too much "me" for my liking whereas Ogilvie's has more "we", sharing the spotlight with his fellow pilots of all nationalities.
 
Anyhow, military pics. Here's Johnny Turk and friends, on maneuvers in 1940. Note the antiquated kit. One wonders how they would have done had they been dragged into the fray.

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Hmmm....tough call. The Turks fought well enough in the Korean war IIRC.
My impression of them in the ww2 era would be that of brave men but with poor leadership
 
... as was the case in WWI unless they were being led by German Officers. Mind you, they did pretty well against the ANZACS at Gallipoli under Attaturk.
 
Well there's absolutely nothing wrong with a Spitfire from any angle. You and I are 100% in alignment on that one, mate. :) Although the Mk. 9T is coming close to not being attractive...

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And as we're on a cheesecake jag just now, I thing Claudia Cardinale should be on any reasonable list of Most Beautiful Women:

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Anyhow, military pics. Here's Johnny Turk and friends, on maneuvers in 1940. Note the antiquated kit. One wonders how they would have done had they been dragged into the fray.

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What is it about those Italian women? I latched onto my wife because he reminded me of Sophia. Said she had been handed that compliment several times, she was German though. :)
 
Hmmm....tough call. The Turks fought well enough in the Korean war IIRC.
My impression of them in the ww2 era would be that of brave men but with poor leadership

British Empire was badly beaten by the Turks twice in WWI, Gallipoli and Mesopotamia.
 
Not to sure about the antiquated kit thing. The British had Vickers MG's and the Americans used Browning M1919's and probably 1917's as well. The Germans were the only ones with what would be considered modern equipment using the MG34 and later the MG42.

And yes, the Turkish soldier could be every bit as tough and brave as any other out there - leadership - that's another matter.
 
Funny thing about the Brits; they often lost their battles, but seemed to win the wars.:eek:

WW2 was a pretty sorry catalog for them with big, spectacular defeats in France, Norway, N.Africa, Greece, Crete, Burma and Malaya, yet they managed to pull it out at the end, admittedly with considerable help from the US and Commonwealth troops and the Russians driving in from the other side.

The Brits were very good at strategy and the big picture, something the Germans sucked at. The Germans were quite successful at the tactical and operational levels, but weren't much good at strategy and understanding sea power. Industrial capacity, logistics and shortage of key raw products, esp oil, were big limitations on them as well.
 
Funny thing about the Brits; they often lost their battles, but seemed to win the wars.:eek:

WW2 was a pretty sorry catalog for them with big, spectacular defeats in France, Norway, N.Africa, Greece, Crete, Burma and Malaya, yet they managed to pull it out at the end, admittedly with considerable help from the US and Commonwealth troops and the Russians driving in from the other side.

The Brits were very good at strategy and the big picture, something the Germans sucked at. The Germans were quite successful at the tactical and operational levels, but weren't much good at strategy and understanding sea power. Industrial capacity, logistics and shortage of key raw products, esp oil, were big limitations on them as well.

There is an old saying. You only have to win the last battle.
 
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