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4.4 Billion for tin can full of electronics? It can hide from radar? Great, can it hide from satellite cameras and submarine listening devices? Can it hide its wake? What's with the old ram bow? Sure, a few billionaires have had yachts built with that bow, but does that make it better militarily? Can it go faster for longer than a destroyer built in 1934 that could make 45 knots? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_destroyer_Terrible

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And where are the microchips made? Probably Taiwan.
 
The SSS Horst Wessel.

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She's still afloat. The Yanks named her USCGS Eagle, and she's the only active sailing ship on the US military register.

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She continues her mission as a training ship. She's been refitted twice. Tough old girl that she is, she may well sail on for decades to come. Not bad. :)

One of her sister ships
Portuguese Training ship Sagres(III)

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Ship history[edit]
The three-masted ship was launched under the name Albert Leo Schlageter on 30 October 1937 at Blohm & Voss in Hamburg for Nazi Germany's Kriegsmarine. The ship was named after Albert Leo Schlageter, who was executed in 1923 by French forces occupying the Ruhr area. Her first commander was Bernhard Rogge. Sagres is a sister ship of the Gorch Fock, the Horst Wessel, and the Romanian training vessel Mircea. Another sister, Herbert Norkus, was not completed, while Gorch Fock II was built in 1958 by the Germans to replace the ships lost after the war.

Following a number of international training voyages, the ship was used as a stationary office ship after the outbreak of World War II and was only put into ocean-going service again in 1944 in the Baltic Sea. On 14 November 1944 she hit a Soviet mine off Sassnitz and had to be towed to port in Swinemünde. Eventually transferred to Flensburg, she was taken over there by the Allies when the war ended and finally confiscated by the United States.


The Sagres at OpSail 2000

Sagres at dock in Mar del Plata, Argentina, February 2010
In 1948, the U.S. sold her to Brazil for a symbolic price of $5,000 USD.[1] She was towed to Rio de Janeiro, and for Brazil she sailed as a school ship for the Brazilian Navy under the name Guanabara. In 1961, through the perseverant mediation of the Ambassador Teotónio Pereira, who was also a man of the sea, loved sailing ships and had been an organizer of the first Tall Ships’ Race, the Portuguese Navy bought her to replace the previous school ship Sagres (which was transferred to Hamburg, where she is a museum ship under her original name Rickmer Rickmers). The Portuguese Navy renamed her Sagres (the third ship of that name), and she is still in service.

In 2010, the ship performed her longest voyage, a round the world trip performing an approximate total of 35000 miles, under the command of CMG Pedro Proença Mendes. The ship left Lisbon on 19 January and returned on 24 December, having participated in Velas Sudamerica 2010, an historical Latin American tour by eleven tall ships to celebrate the bicentennial of the first national governments of Argentina and Chile.[2] She also took part in the Expo Shanghai, among other events during that year.

The ship has sailed under the Portuguese flag since 1962. For that reason, in 2012 there were major commemorations of her 75th anniversary and 50 years in the service of the Portuguese navy.

On an average day.
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4.4 Billion for tin can full of electronics? It can hide from radar? Great, can it hide from satellite cameras and submarine listening devices? Can it hide its wake? What's with the old ram bow? Sure, a few billionaires have had yachts built with that bow, but does that make it better militarily? Can it go faster for longer than a destroyer built in 1934 that could make 45 knots? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_destroyer_Terrible

Faster isn't the name of the game. Maneuverability is. Most modern warships can't go too fast (for example our frigates top out at about 32 knots), but are significantly more maneuverable than the previous warships (both in terms of how quickly they can turn but also in terms of how quickly they can decrease and increase power). Sure you can go faster if you wanted to, but all that does is make you a predictable target (much like running in a straight line in a battlefield is a bad idea). Hiding from radar is a big deal because that also means it is hiding from there computer tracking systems for there missiles, making it significantly more difficult to target and hit you, which considering modern warships aren't made to take hits, is a good thing.
 
4.4 Billion for tin can full of electronics? It can hide from radar? Great, can it hide from satellite cameras and submarine listening devices? Can it hide its wake? What's with the old ram bow? Sure, a few billionaires have had yachts built with that bow, but does that make it better militarily? Can it go faster for longer than a destroyer built in 1934 that could make 45 knots?

And where are the microchips made? Probably Taiwan.

Not really trying to defend the Zumwalt, but it is an innovative design, and innovation costs money in the real world.

Tumblehome Hull design has been around for a few hundred years. There's some logic to it, and it has come in and out of fashion in combat ship design. A big part of the attraction now has to do with radar signature and how tumblehome hulls cuts through seas. The ship is literally designed to cut through waves instead of cresting them. While I'm sure that's a spooky experience for the crew, it will greatly reduce radar signature. Essentially, enemy vessels and aircraft will have to get a lot closer in order to be able to detect her. It's all about distance - the closer a vessel can get to you without being spotted, the more dangerous it is.

It's also an inherently unstable design. That sounds like a bad thing, but it follows the same principles as modern fighter aircraft. The more unstable an aircraft is, the more manoeuvrable it is. The trick is to get it as close to the edge as possible, while still being able to control it. The F-117 was somewhat infamous in that if the computer control systems failed, the aircraft would literally shake itself apart under fully manual control. Nonetheless, it was a highly successful strike aircraft (it was never designed to be, or used as, a fighter aircraft).

Time will tell if the theory pans out in the real world. There are 5 Zumwalt class ships on order/under construction. Expensive, yes. But in ocean warfare the rules are simple:

Adapt or die.

Faster isn't the name of the game. Maneuverability is. Most modern warships can't go too fast (for example our frigates top out at about 32 knots), but are significantly more maneuverable than the previous warships (both in terms of how quickly they can turn but also in terms of how quickly they can decrease and increase power). Sure you can go faster if you wanted to, but all that does is make you a predictable target (much like running in a straight line in a battlefield is a bad idea). Hiding from radar is a big deal because that also means it is hiding from there computer tracking systems for there missiles, making it significantly more difficult to target and hit you, which considering modern warships aren't made to take hits, is a good thing.

This.

It's notable that while modern ships "aren't designed to take hits" they do have quite effective damage control systems and design. The problem is that the vast increase in lethality of ship to ship weapons has rendered armour a moot point. A single modern missile or torpedo will cut the hardiest ship in half. So the name of the game has become "how not to be seen" and "how not to get hit."
 
Opel Kapitän

On the button, Diopter. Thanks for that. It's a classy looking car in civilian kip. Just needs a healthy blonde woman in braids in the passenger seat, maybe in 1940's clothes, showing just the faintest top of her stockings and smiling at you...

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In this mode, your constant companion would be a hefty Feldwebel with a tendency toward flatulence and bad jokes about Russians.
 
General Motors could not divest themselves of the Opel Brand fast enough post war as they did not want to be tarred with the brush of supporting the German war effort and its use of forced and slave labour. Both GM and Ford kept track of their asserts in the Reich as best they could through neutral countries. Ford Germany was not 100% trusted by the Nazi party so it never received huge orders like the German marques did. If you look at the Opel carb in the Youtube vid its essentially a Carter downdraft (same as what is in a Ketterkrad) and if you set that beside a wartime jeep carb they are amazingly close in appearance.
 
"Offroading with Elegance" wouldn't sell many trucks for Dodge, but Benz would certainly have a claim for originating the concept. That's quite the upscale rig for the mudbogs.

The holster in the door's a nice touch.
 
I love seeing a museum taking vehicles out and having them on the road (or off road as the case may be) Considering there are only three of these G4 out there in original condition it says something when a museum (Sinshiem) does a outside event, this car was in attendence at the 2016 DISG meet in Germany this summer.
 
"Unleash the dogs of war ..... "

"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" apparently they are 'famine, sword and fire'. Although at the Battle of Agincourt ...the British employed Mastiffs and/or Irish Wolfhounds to attack the French! Pity the French didnt think to bring icecream cones for the dogs..would have prevented a great deal of bloodshed!
 
Thanks for the correction, AP. My highschool Shakespeare has lost some of it's clarity over the years.

During Escape & Evasion training in Germany, we were told not to try to out run the "dogs of war" as they would win and once we were down, we were at their mercy. Instead we were told to wrap a tunic around our arms, offer it to the dog to hold on to and then the hell out of him with a stick, rick or even a fist. Fingers in the eyes as well. In other words - fight dirty or lose!
 
Big advantage that dogs have is psychological (which they intuitively exploit) ... but their only weapon is their teeth....and if you can keep their jaws occupied ....well..their skulls arent really that strong and the forward edge of a helmet will easily cause a serious injury.

We had an irish wolfhound (unfortunately they dont live too long) that I was very fond of (although a big suck!) but once you get used to a dog of that size.... a lot of the traditional 'guard' dog breeds seem pretty inconsequential..and lose the psychological advantage. If anybody has to deal with large dogs....a good way to get comfortable with them is spending time with a wolfhound. Just dont try to outrun one....they can break your legs!
 
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