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Scenes like those & the history behind the Holocaust must never be forgotten.
I agree but I am afraid it already has been .as people seem to forget the process that people ended up in those camps it was incremental , not overnight.
I have visited the Natzweiler Struthof camp in France not too far from the old Lahr AirForce Base and it's definitely an unnerving experience. I took some crew members there a few times when on a Lahr layover and there was no conversation in the vehicle on the way back.
It's bad enough to read about these places but to visit and see it first hand really hits hard. The description "some of the most dispirited places on the planet" definitely sums it up accurately.
It's bad enough to read about these places but to visit and see it first hand really hits hard. The description "some of the most dispirited places on the planet" definitely sums it up accurately.
If you're going to be flying into the envelope of MANPADS, as the AT-802 and variants certainly would, then yes, virtually a necessity. That said, the AT-802 does not typically carry them.
About 75% of its empty weight, typically a pair of 500 lb bombs, a handful of rockets, and the 0.50 cal MG. Looks more impressive than it really is.
If not on such a large scale, similar levels of evil have happened many times before, is happening now (in ISIS controlled territory for ex.) and will no doubt happen many times again.
Dark Alley Dan
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My Mrs. and I once toured Flossenburg, accompanied only by her cousin. Nobody else there, and it was a grey, rainy day. We had lots of time to spend with the ghosts.
This is the area where people were shot for imaginary crimes.
One of the victims killed here was Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, former chief of the Abwehr and no fan of Hitler.
96,000 prisoners at Flossenburg during its operation. 36,000 died. A terribly sad place in a beautiful location. Hard to connect those two things.
This is the area where people were shot for imaginary crimes.
One of the victims killed here was Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, former chief of the Abwehr and no fan of Hitler.
96,000 prisoners at Flossenburg during its operation. 36,000 died. A terribly sad place in a beautiful location. Hard to connect those two things.
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Dark Alley Dan
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Before L. Ron Hubbard started his own big money pseudoreligion, he had a job with the US Navy as CO of the subchaser PC-815, pictured here undergoing trials after her assembly at Portland:
Elron would go on to screw up repeatedly as Commanding Officer of this poor little boat. First he engaged two Japanese subs that didn't exist, claiming one sunk, one damaged. Everyone else involved (and it was quite the crowd) believed there was no enemy submarine in the area. Postwar Japanese records show the sub Elron "sank" was never anywhere near the area and was sunk a year later, far, far away from Oregon.
Then he wandered out of US territorial waters and shelled Mexico. His subsequent report card suggested he was not ready to command a ship of any size without supervision.
Details here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_PC-815
Poor old PC-815, after being relieved of her entirely inadequate commanding officer, would go on to accidentally ram a USN destroyer. She burned and sank with the loss of one crewman.
One of those little boats that accomplished almost nothing. And that wasn't helped by spending time being managed by a delusional self-promoting boob.
Elron would go on to screw up repeatedly as Commanding Officer of this poor little boat. First he engaged two Japanese subs that didn't exist, claiming one sunk, one damaged. Everyone else involved (and it was quite the crowd) believed there was no enemy submarine in the area. Postwar Japanese records show the sub Elron "sank" was never anywhere near the area and was sunk a year later, far, far away from Oregon.
Then he wandered out of US territorial waters and shelled Mexico. His subsequent report card suggested he was not ready to command a ship of any size without supervision.
Details here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_PC-815
Poor old PC-815, after being relieved of her entirely inadequate commanding officer, would go on to accidentally ram a USN destroyer. She burned and sank with the loss of one crewman.
One of those little boats that accomplished almost nothing. And that wasn't helped by spending time being managed by a delusional self-promoting boob.
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The 802 can be fitted with countermeasures, and some variants are.
As for payload... Well, it can be fitted with a larger payload than the Tucano, and for COIN, you're not going up against regiments, just small groups dug in. A couple of 500 pounders, some small rockets, and a strafing run with the 50's would go a long way to curbing the enthusiasm of a couple of farmers who got their dander up.
And that loiter time... There's a lot to be said for an aircraft just "being there" as top cover. So long as they can hear that engine buzzing around overhead, the average insurgent is much less likely to even engage a patrol to start with.
I'm just thinking out loud, not even remotely an expert on the subject.
Never said it couldn't. It just typically isn't. First line operators UAE and Jordan, for example, do not usually put any kind of countermeasures on their AT-802s.
Heavier potential payload than Tucano, yes. But the AT-802 sacrifices some performance to achieve it. It is slower, less maneuverable and has a much lower ceiling. Doesn't matter much when you're dropping dumb bombs or rockets or MG fire on poorly armed farmers, smugglers or criminals, but if you cannot get out of the envelope of potential MANPADS in a higher risk environment, it means a great deal. Tucano can stay out of that envelope and still be combat effective.
And came across this...
On the left, a young Lt. John Marks, in 1991, early on in the Gulf War, showing off some fresh paint on his A-10. (He would go on to collect over 30 tank kills in Gulf 1, depending on sources).
On the right, Lt. Col. John Marks, still flying A-10's with custom paint (although the paint is now hidden behind a service panel). Most recent combat deployment is 2014 in Afghanistan.
Currently a Pilot instructor at Whiteman Air Force Base. In mid November, he crossed over the 6000 hour mark in the A-10, including 950 Combat Hours. So far.
"Marks plans on flying the A-10 until he is no longer capable, which gives him a few more years in the cockpit and the potential to reach 7,000 hours."
http://www.afrc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/5059/Article/1017122/whiteman-pilot-logs-6000-a-10-hours.aspx
https://warisboring.com/after-nearly-30-years-a-10-pilot-reaches-more-than-6-000-hours-in-the-cockpit-b65b1ee866f1#.rdy1buxbp
And with a bit of creative Google-Foo, lots more about this guy. Possibly the single most experienced combat pilot currently serving the in USAF.
On the left, a young Lt. John Marks, in 1991, early on in the Gulf War, showing off some fresh paint on his A-10. (He would go on to collect over 30 tank kills in Gulf 1, depending on sources).
On the right, Lt. Col. John Marks, still flying A-10's with custom paint (although the paint is now hidden behind a service panel). Most recent combat deployment is 2014 in Afghanistan.
Currently a Pilot instructor at Whiteman Air Force Base. In mid November, he crossed over the 6000 hour mark in the A-10, including 950 Combat Hours. So far.
"Marks plans on flying the A-10 until he is no longer capable, which gives him a few more years in the cockpit and the potential to reach 7,000 hours."
http://www.afrc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/5059/Article/1017122/whiteman-pilot-logs-6000-a-10-hours.aspx
https://warisboring.com/after-nearly-30-years-a-10-pilot-reaches-more-than-6-000-hours-in-the-cockpit-b65b1ee866f1#.rdy1buxbp
And with a bit of creative Google-Foo, lots more about this guy. Possibly the single most experienced combat pilot currently serving the in USAF.
Getting 9000 hours in that type of aircraft is no big deal at all especially with extra crew and inflight meals but someone getting 6000 hours in a A10 or a fighter is really quite remarkable.
