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^ I bet the new owners are unimpressed
 
I own a C2 and had a Bren (and a Sten and Sterling, for that matter.)

The C2 was a noisemaker good for converting good ammo into scrap brass.

The only way to hit anything was to shooting it semi. On FA the first shot went where you aimed, the send into the dirt and the third way over the target.

The Bren could be fired like a Thompson. Short bursts went where you aimed. All of the shots.

Sterling was nicer than a Sten, but both worked well - for a light SMG.

The C2 made a very good sniper rifle. Decked out with a scope with it's tripod and fired single it was more accurate than the C1. At the time I was in, we did not have a dedicated sniper rifle. We had the #4 mk1* T in reserve but never issued them. The C1 had a breech cover mounted scope and was what we used as a sniper. Trouble is, this rifle was never designed to be that good of a tack driver to reach out for a head shot at 1,000 yards.
And typical of the military, we were not officially allowed to use the C2 in the sniper role.
 
Back in the mid eighties there were still Bren guns in war stores on the West coast. I wonder if we kept them or if they were destroyed?
 
The C2 made a very good sniper rifle. Decked out with a scope with it's tripod and fired single it was more accurate than the C1. At the time I was in, we did not have a dedicated sniper rifle. We had the #4 mk1* T in reserve but never issued them. The C1 had a breech cover mounted scope and was what we used as a sniper. Trouble is, this rifle was never designed to be that good of a tack driver to reach out for a head shot at 1,000 yards.
And typical of the military, we were not officially allowed to use the C2 in the sniper role.

Ahhh no and yes. The C2 was an excellent AR with a trained gunner and a good section 2IC to control fire in the C2 group at battle ranges. Suppressive fire was problematic with mag fed weapon though. As for the beaten zone of C2, it has been mis-described here or the individual doesn't understand beaten zones of FA weapons. The C2 had an effective beaten zone at battle ranges for it's purpose which was the suppression of a single battle trench for a section assault.

The scopes sat in stores where I spent my garrison hours dusting them and their hard cases. There was several attempts by infantry officers to make an intellectual case for outfitting a platoon marksman (in the Soviet Cold War style) with a scope but the mount was just a bit fragile for stomping around the training area. We used the C3 bolt action rifle for sniper duties, some times our snipers practiced anti vehicle shots with the M2HB 50 cal on single rounds as well. The C2 was not an effective sniper weapon at typical sniper ranges, it was very accurate on single rounds out to 600.
 
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The Bradley as the Brits called it or the US M3 Lee was a pretty decent tank considering when it was designed and the tanks it was designed to fight against. By 1935 it was already very obsolete. Lots of WWI type technology there. The Brits used a lot of them in Africa and when push came to shove and they were up against similar Axis tanks they did quite well.

Many of them were Lend Leased to the Soviets in 1942
 
The Bradley as the Brits called it or the US M3 Lee was a pretty decent tank considering when it was designed and the tanks it was designed to fight against. By 1935 it was already very obsolete. Lots of WWI type technology there. The Brits used a lot of them in Africa and when push came to shove and they were up against similar Axis tanks they did quite well.

Many of them were Lend Leased to the Soviets in 1942
Bradley?- try grant
 
^ Long, long gone. C1, C2 rifle/LMG and C1 SMG also.

I miss the SMG, I was Grizzly gunner on my first posting after my MG Course and carried SMG in a star wars style holster. The SMG had and still has valid uses for vehicle crews and soft skin drivers. At the Infantry School in 1987, we trialed a Diemaco Colt in 9mm, very short barrel and butt it was also as short as an SMG but bean counters being bean counters..........
 
When 4 CMBG was attached to 2nd Div BAOR we'd see Brit rubber tired recce vehicles with converted Brens on exercises around Sennelager. Easy to spot as they had straight mags as opposed to curved.

The squaddies I new reluctantly accepted the GPMG, sorely missing the Bren just as they did the Vickers MMG.
 
Bradley?- try grant

Thanks for the correction T-star. I do appreciate it. Nomenclature has never been a strong point for me especially with nick named lend lease equipment. I had read an article about the "GRANT" written by one of the British tank unit commanders and he really liked the platform. Had a lot of praise for them although he did mention they seemed to need a lot of maintenance.
 
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^ I bet the new owners are unimpressed

This Lee tank was probably captured at the Battle of Kasserine Pass , in Tunisia, thats when the inexperienced American troops, got caught up in a battle with the very experienced German Afrika Korps, led by the wily General Rommel,

The Americans, were good men, but were hampered by poor training and a incompetent command structure,mainly their divisional commander , Lieutenant General Lloyd Frendenall, who was hiding out in a bunker, 70 miles from the front, this bunker took a entire company of Army Engineers, 3 week to construct, blasted out of solid rock, a little gun shy, one could say..lol,

This defeat caused General Eisenhower, to promptly to relieve Fredenall from his command, and shipped him back to the states
 
This Lee tank was probably captured at the Battle of Kasserine Pass , in Tunisia, thats when the inexperienced American troops, got caught up in a battle with the very experienced German Afrika Korps, led by the wily General Rommel,

The Americans, were good men, but were hampered by poor training and a incompetent command structure,mainly their divisional commander , Lieutenant General Lloyd Frendenall, who was hiding out in a bunker, 70 miles from the front, this bunker took a entire company of Army Engineers, 3 week to construct, blasted out of solid rock, a little gun shy, one could say..lol,

This defeat caused General Eisenhower, to promptly to relieve Fredenall from his command, and shipped him back to the states



For those that are interested, the 1943 movie Sahara, starring Humprey Bogart, he is the commander of a US Lee tank, trying to make back to Allied lines, also these is a 1995 remake of the movie, with a working Lee tank, these movies can be seen on YouTube
 
For those that are interested, the 1943 movie Sahara, starring Humprey Bogart, he is the commander of a US Lee tank, trying to make back to Allied lines, also these is a 1995 remake of the movie, with a working Lee tank, these movies can be seen on YouTube

Good movie, although the interior of the LEE was stripped to keep things secret.
 
Thanks for the correction T-star. I do appreciate it. Nomenclature has never been a strong point for me especially with nick named lend lease equipment. I had read an article about the "GRANT" written by one of the British tank unit commanders and he really liked the platform. Had a lot of praise for them although he did mention they seemed to need a lot of maintenance.

They actually owned the German Panzer IIIs in desert but the first Panzer IV F2 Specials with the first long barreled 75 punched them out good. Fortunately for the Brits, there was never enough IV F2s getting through to save Rommel.
 
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