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I don't understand the derision of McArthur leaving. Did everyone expect him to stay and be captured?

I think the derision came more from his rampant egotism, the "I shall return" comment. Of course his cocking up of the eventual invasion of the Philipines probably didn't help either.
 
I don't understand the derision of McArthur leaving. Did everyone expect him to stay and be captured?

If he had followed his direct standing orders the odds are going or that he wouldn’t have had to leave. That would have spared a lot of men death at the hands of the Japanese.
 
Might not make the standard of the thread; however, my uncle was a Chaplain in the Canadian Army in the 1960's - he was a major. I dont have much information on his various posts but I know he was in Ontario, served with the Van Doo's out of Quebec City, served in Shilo and then in BC where he broke his back. He was repatriated back to Ontario where after surgeries and recoveries he was a parish priest in Petrolia, Parkhill, Sarnia and Point Edward before he retired.

I was able to get this when he passed away, only caption was on the back of the frame saying Niagara on the Lake, 1962. I always loved this picture as he was a can do guy and here he is performing mass off the back of a deuce and a half.

RIP Fr. Bill!
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If he had followed his direct standing orders the odds are going or that he wouldn’t have had to leave. That would have spared a lot of men death at the hands of the Japanese.

This is interesting. Pleas explain more. I thought he was facing a larger force and was not going to be reinforced, so don't understand how he could have saved his men, unless he could have got them out, too.
 
Might not make the standard of the thread; however, my uncle was a Chaplain in the Canadian Army in the 1960's - he was a major. I dont have much information on his various posts but I know he was in Ontario, served with the Van Doo's out of Quebec City, served in Shilo and then in BC where he broke his back. He was repatriated back to Ontario where after surgeries and recoveries he was a parish priest in Petrolia, Parkhill, Sarnia and Point Edward before he retired.

I was able to get this when he passed away, only caption was on the back of the frame saying Niagara on the Lake, 1962. I always loved this picture as he was a can do guy and here he is performing mass off the back of a deuce and a half.

RIP Fr. Bill!
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Nice picture ... was taken either at the Camp location (currently the 'Commons') or possibly the Ranges on the other side of town - they also used Winona Rifle Ranges then as well. Most likely the Camp. The camp had few hard standing buildings - the major camp accommodations were Bell tents set up for the militia summer training. In 1962 the training focus was 'ropes and ladders' ... The primary role of the militia within 'Central Command' (as it was called) then would have been to assist in the aftermath of Soviet nuclear strike on or near Toronto ... an event that would have occurred with as much as 40 minutes warning by the time the sirens started to howl.

Niagara could be hot and was humid ... its interesting that the 'Bush' uniforms in the photo look relatively uncreased. Must be early in the day.
 
Nice picture ... was taken either at the Camp location (currently the 'Commons') or possibly the Ranges on the other side of town - they also used Winona Rifle Ranges then as well. Most likely the Camp. The camp had few hard standing buildings - the major camp accommodations were Bell tents set up for the militia summer training. In 1962 the training focus was 'ropes and ladders' ... The primary role of the militia within 'Central Command' (as it was called) then would have been to assist in the aftermath of Soviet nuclear strike on or near Toronto ... an event that would have occurred with as much as 40 minutes warning by the time the sirens started to howl.

Niagara could be hot and was humid ... its interesting that the 'Bush' uniforms in the photo look relatively uncreased. Must be early in the day.

Thanks for the information. Much appreciated.
 
So why does he get a hard time of it?

Some jackass gave MacArthur the nickname "Dugout Doug" when he moved his HQ to the island of Corregidor (Malinta Tunnel).

Back in the day, the Commanding General was expected to surrender his troops when the fighting became hopeless, not be evacuated to safety. He was supposed to lead his men into captivity or death.

MacArthur didn't do that because he was ordered to leave by the Commander-in-Chief (FDR) - although it is said that he wanted to lead his men to the bitter end.

As an interesting side note, MacArthur was not officially relieved of command of US Forces in the Philippines, but the Army brass in Washington DC dealt straight with General Jonathan Wainwright as soon as MacArthur was on the B-17's heading for Australia.
 
Was McArthur in US Army or still the head of the Philippine Army?

Manuel Quezon appointed him Field Marshal of the Phillipine army in August 1936. He officially retired from the US Army on 31 December 1937. However the Commonwealth of the Phillipines was still American territory and FDR federalized the Phillipine Army on 26 July 1941, effectively making the Phillipine Army part of the US Army. At the same time FDR restored MacArthur to active duty status as Commander of the American Forces in the Far East, and he was promoted to Lt. General on 27 July 1941. This was about the time Dean Acheson, on his own initiative, embargoed all crude oil to Japan; the Roosevelt administration had a pretty good idea what was coming.

So the answer to your question is both, really.
 
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I love the French. Only they could name a room "The Chamber of Superior Manipulation". One pictures it staffed by leggy redheads in all leather kit.

Not your turn yet? Worms like you wait in The Chamber of Inferior Manipulation. But I digress.

Fort Drum was captured by the Japanese and later retaken by the Yanks. Here they are shortly afterward:

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Pretty beat up each time she changed hands.

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She's still there, although it's said the turrets have been scrapped.

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