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Dark Alley Dan
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Nice squadron hack.
Meanwhile,elsewhere in the desert...
Meanwhile,elsewhere in the desert...
Wooden wheels are attached to a P-51 ("Mustang") fighter plane so it may be moved around the ramp at the Inglewood, Calif., plant of North American Aviation, Inc.
The perception being that the Battle of Prokhorovka was a stunning victory for the Soviets and was the opening blow against the Nazis in the larger Battle of Kursk, which saw one of the major reversals of fate for the Nazis - and begun the long decline and eventual defeat. Obviously the larger Battle of Kursk was a victory for the Soviets - but one cannot overlook the fact that there were reversals during the overall campaign.
It matters from the standpoint of historical accuracy. History is written by the victor - doesn't mean that the victor paints a wholly accurate picture, does it?
Indeed, reversals occur quite often. But, there's a difference between acknowledging the reversal (as with the Battle of the Bulge) versus pretending it never happened and the Yanks smoothly sailed all the way to Germany.
gewehr76
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Almost every battle that Soviets fought in WW2 was plagued by heavy loss of life and materiel for Soviet side. Millions of soldiers paid ultimate sacrifice in order to achieve objective of capturing cities and river crossings. In Russian literature and language its stated that Great Patriotic War was won by soldiers treated as cannon fodder. Many penal battalions were sacrificed in order to confuse break through area, while actual push was made in totally other location. So even some high ranking German general (I think it was Manstein) stated that if Germany had as many soldiers as Russia, even then Germany would not use them so senselessly as Soviets did.
So if you look at the numbers of soldiers Soviet union lost, and then at each Soviet General that commanded in any capacity during WW2 should have been shot publicly at the Kremlin wall for bad management of personnel and not made in to heroes. If this was in western army these generals would be kicked out of the army so hard they would be limping on both legs for the rest of their lives. But these were the days of Stalinism and victory at all cost. 25 million Soviet citizens lost their lives in span of 5 years. Mind boggling number.
So if you look at the numbers of soldiers Soviet union lost, and then at each Soviet General that commanded in any capacity during WW2 should have been shot publicly at the Kremlin wall for bad management of personnel and not made in to heroes. If this was in western army these generals would be kicked out of the army so hard they would be limping on both legs for the rest of their lives. But these were the days of Stalinism and victory at all cost. 25 million Soviet citizens lost their lives in span of 5 years. Mind boggling number.
fat tony
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We are good HD. I once came downstairs, or came home from school, & dad had a copy of the Board of Inquiry report on the USS Scorpion sinking. The inquiry painted a picture of the most likely scenario. A series of events including a hydrogen gas explosion. I was about eight at the time and foolishly asked to read it. Dad was sitting in his recliner and with a who gives a damn 'sure why not' expression nonchalantly handed it to me. For an eight year old kid, no, not a good idea for a kid of that age to read. Thoroughly horrifying read. I happened upon the pdf file copy of the report about forty yrs. later and it was still a horrifying thing to read. So much so, that I did not remember reading the report copy the first time until I read it forty years later and recalled. So I could have blocked it out. A lot of ppl.appeared to have done this with various aspects of 9/11.
Commander Francis A. Slattery. On eternal patrol.
Commander Francis A. Slattery. On eternal patrol.
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Dark Alley Dan
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Jeez, those poor guys. The only upside is that once things started going VERY wrong, their passage from this world would have been pretty quick.
There's really no great place to fight a war from, but the inside of a sub is way, way down the list for me. At least this deathtrap had better ventilation and the opportunity to flee if things went very bad indeed:
Dark Alley Dan
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Piles of the stuff. Germany, Spring 1945.
One wonders how much of that was just heaved over the side of the bridge when the stream of POWs stopped coming.
One wonders how much of that was just heaved over the side of the bridge when the stream of POWs stopped coming.
Dark Alley Dan
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Hans, Dieter, and some Italian co-combatants have a lovely chat with some friendly Australians neat Tobruk.
"Y'know, I think I'm gonna really like Lethbridge. It sounds nice, and the flies aren't nearly as bad there as here..."
Dig those crazy combat short-shorts...
"Y'know, I think I'm gonna really like Lethbridge. It sounds nice, and the flies aren't nearly as bad there as here..."
Dig those crazy combat short-shorts...
Hans, Dieter, and some Italian co-combatants have a lovely chat with some friendly Australians neat Tobruk.
"Y'know, I think I'm gonna really like Lethbridge. It sounds nice, and the flies aren't nearly as bad there as here..."
Dig those crazy combat short-shorts...
Might even do some mountain climbing if we get to Kananskis. They actually allowed them
Grizz
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Ah yes the old try not to look important the enemy might be low on ammunition ploy
They never collapsed
When the Stari Most fell into the river in Mostar it turned the river red for days. The cement that held the bridge together had a red dye in it. But, legend states that if the bridge fell Bosnia would fall as well.
I remember reading a few accounts of RAF pilots who served in North Africa, who made more than a few comments to the effect of how well behaved and friendly the Italian POWs were.
And a photo of a member of the Veterans Guard at a POW camp in Ontario during the war.
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Kinda my point....my sick twisted comment was kinda a sarcastic one.
It was trying to compare that burning building to the CN trades building that was on fire on 9/11.
And how it collapsed after only being on fire for 53 minutes killing over 1100 people.
Anyway I do apologize. Not everyone gets my attempt at humor or satire.
