Pistol and Revolver Accuracy

OkayShooter said:
Do you want speed shooting, do you want super slow bullets where you want most precsion, or mix of both?

PPC will teach you bit more than IPSC when it comes to accuracy. Its static shooting, but will shoot standing, kneeling, sitting, prone. From 3-50 meters. It's much more slower firing, at 50 meters, you might have 90 seconds to fire 12 rds. But might do some 3m snap shooting where you fire 2 rds in 3 seconds. You dont need much gear, 2 mags, and basic holster as it's more just to carry the gun. It's good for all skill as you shoot from the 45. You dont need a course to partake.
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I always equate PPC with Kata in martial arts. IDPA is closer to Kumite.
 
gdawg said:
Silhouette is unique. Long barrelled revolvers are also used but so are, basically, mini-rifles

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Ah, so "pistols" in the same way that the Ruger Charger is a "pistol", lol.

Also, someone needs to get those dudes a pillow. That looks awkward as hell.
 
Scotty454 said:
Ah, so "pistols" in the same way that the Ruger Charger is a "pistol", lol.

Also, someone needs to get those dudes a pillow. That looks awkward as hell.
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It's not bad. The fun really began when you had a tie, and the would put the 50 yd chickens at the 200 yd line. That used to cull the wheat from the chaff. I've seen guys do it with a 1911, though it took a magazine full to get on target. - dan
 
Scotty454 said:
WTF, people expect MOA at 200 (Like, 2" groups) from PISTOLS??

For real?
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Yup, for real. There are some amazing accurate handguns out there. Certain revolvers, quite a few single shots of various types, only names couple of semi autos that I am aware of. And a few people who can shoot them accurately at those distances. - dan
 
Leavenworth said:
Dan , I’m not sure yet . I need to look at the different shooting disciplines and what would appeal to me . Maybe I can get an idea from the Forum .
Leavenworth
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Well, maybe go to a few different types of competitions, talk to people competing. Shooters are usually pretty friendly and outgoing when they are discussing their favorite shooting sports. - dan
 
Thanks Okay Shooter and also Dave in Calgary .
Leavenworth
OkayShooter said:
Do you want speed shooting, do you want super slow bullets where you want most precsion, or mix of both?

PPC will teach you bit more than IPSC when it comes to accuracy. Its static shooting, but will shoot standing, kneeling, sitting, prone. From 3-50 meters. It's much more slower firing, at 50 meters, you might have 90 seconds to fire 12 rds. But might do some 3m snap shooting where you fire 2 rds in 3 seconds. You dont need much gear, 2 mags, and basic holster as it's more just to carry the gun. It's good for all skill as you shoot from the 45. You dont need a course to partake.
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Leavenworth said:
Good idea ! Thanks
Leavenworth
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On Saturday March 2nd there is an IDPA ( international defensive pistol association)match at Chilliwack Fish and Game and on Saturday March 16th another match at Mission Rod and Gun. You would be welcome to attend either event as a spectator, just bring eye and ear protection, you can come out and see how it all works. Great people who will definitely answer your questions, you are welcome to tag along with my squad anytime. If you are on FB have a look at CFGPA IDPA, there are some vids posted there
 
Leavenworth said:
Since I’m couch ridden for awhile and have time on my hands I have been wat bing a few firearm channels but I have a question or two.

You will here the individuals talk about the pistol or revolvers accuracy and how it’s bang on with out any modifications

What is considered an accurate pistol ? What type of groupings ? What yardage ? Also is this caliber dependent ?

I will read the replies and probably have more questions
Thanks
Leavenworth
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Sorry to hear you're couch ladden. I hope you're able to get to the range soon. I'm not a great shot with handguns but I'm happy with pinging 3" gongs at 7 yards. I don't know if it's sights, or grip, but I am way more accurate with revolvers than I am with auto pistols. Caliber doesn't seem to come into account, I'll shoot .22's with the same accuracy as I shoot .44 mag and everything in between.

I used to shoot at an indoor pistol range eons ago and it would go out to 25 yards, and for handgun shooting, that is waaaaay out there. These days I shoot handguns at 7 yards which is real world effective range with a handgun. That's not to say of course that a handgun isn't effective at 25, 50, or even over 100 yards, it's just to say I can't hit anything with regularity with a handgun at that distance.

To answer your question, handgun groups at 7 yards should probably 2moa, I'm personally not up to that standard. I can however shoot 3 or 4 moa at 7 yards all day at a relatively quick cadance. Many may laugh at that, and that's fine. Like I said, I don't consider myself a great marksman.
 
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Thanks very much for the offer but I’m recovering from surgery to fix a buggered up Achilies Tendon , so I’m not sure where I will be in the recovery stage by then .Will see how it goes .
Leavenworth
edgy said:
On Saturday March 2nd there is an IDPA ( international defensive pistol association)match at Chilliwack Fish and Game and on Saturday March 16th another match at Mission Rod and Gun. You would be welcome to attend either event as a spectator, just bring eye and ear protection, you can come out and see how it all works. Great people who will definitely answer your questions, you are welcome to tag along with my squad anytime. If you are on FB have a look at CFGPA IDPA, there are some vids posted there
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Thanks for the information !
Leavenworth
Painkillers said:
Sorry to hear you're couch ladden. I hope you're able to get to the range soon. I'm not a great shot with handguns but I'm happy with pinging 3" gongs at 7 yards. I don't know if it's sights, or grip, but I am way more accurate with revolvers than I am with auto pistols. Caliber doesn't seem to come into account, I'll shoot .22's with the same accuracy as I shoot .44 mag and everything in between.

I used to shoot at an indoor pistol range eons ago and it would go out to 25 yards, and for handgun shooting, that is waaaaay out there. These days I shoot handguns at 7 yards which is real world effective range with a handgun. That's not to say of course that a handgun isn't effective at 25, 50, or even over 100 yards, it's just to say I can't hit anything with regularity with a handgun at that distance.

To answer your question, handgun groups at 7 yards should probably 2moa, I'm personally not up to that standard. I can however shoot 3 or 4 moa at 7 yards all day at a relatively quick cadance. Many may laugh at that, and that's fine. Like I said, I don't consider myself a great marksman.
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"If you are on FB have a look at CFGPA IDPA, there are some vids posted there"

Unfortunately that is a closed group with no outside access. i did apply to join, but no answer yet. I'm planning on shooting a couple of IDPA matches this season.
 
I have a S&w model 19 that I used for bullseye matches, with the right load and a hbwc off a rest it will put 10 shots in a 2” ragged hole @25yds.
 
ZREXER said:
I use to think that revolvers were always inherently more accurate than semi-auto's. I'm speaking about regular revolvers and semi-auto's, not super serious Olympic type pistols.
I always did well with my S&W 686 .357 Mag shooting 38 Special hand loads. Keeping 10 rounds usually in the 9, 10 and X ring at 20 yards, on a bad day, I'd drop a few in the 8 ring.
Them I got a CZ SP-O1 Shadow in 9mm and I consistently bettered my grouping from my S&W 685. It is just phenomenonly accurate with my hand loads, cast and plated bullets. Literally groups that are large ragged holes at 20 yards.
Reaching out to 50 or 100 yard gongs at the range I get pretty consistent hits with it as well.
I have other 9mm pistols, but they aren't in the same league as my CZ. Other than doing some dri-fire practice, my number one tip is to use weight training to keep your arms strong. Not body builder arms, but well toned. It makes a huge differnce, especially when you get to your third or fourth target.
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Agree. It helps to keep some level of fitness for everything we do in life. You don’t need to win any body builder contests, but basic cardio a couple times a week with using simple machines at the gym will only help.
 
Pistol and revolver accuracy ? All right then.

Speaking of Double Action revolver accuracy only, may I, with all due respect, throw a monkey wrench in the works ?

This thread has now 59 posts and some CGN members have shot pretty good groups, obviously. Yeah. Anyone shooting "Double Action only" - at any range ? With cartridges anywhere above the "optical speed" of the tremendously powerful PPC loads ? "Optical speed" is the speed at which the shooter can S-E-E his bullets going to the target - and hopefully reaching it.

"Double Action only" - at all times and all the time ? Anyone ?
 
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