pistols in the bush?

Boomer, I disagree. In Alberta AFGA have put forward resolutions for the last two years asking the Alberta government to remove the prohibition on handgun hunting here. That is a pretty fudd organization (not to s**t on AFGA, but it an organization of hunters and not sport shooters) and they are firmly behind those who want to hunt with a handgun in this province.

At least in Alberta, hunting is an almost universally understood and accepted reason to own guns. Making hunting with handguns legal will help make handguns into just another tool used by sportsmen. The general public FREAKS OUT when you mention armed citizens (including many gun owners), even in a fairly gun-friendly province like Alberta. But they don't freak out about armed citizens out in the bush. Once handgun hunting is accepted here, we can push for general bush ATC's on the basis that handgun hunting has resulted in no changes in anything. Once people accept armed citizens in the bush, then we can gradually increase the areas handguns are allowed until it is everywhere.

I can't see any way to convince people that armed citizens on city streets are ok before they accept that handguns in the bush are ok.


Mark

Mark your argument is well taken. But regardless of whether we seek wilderness ATCs or urban CCWs, we must first address the PAL, the classification of firearms, and the safe storage regulations. The PAL is the most egregious part of what we now recognize as an extremely egregious piece of legislation. Once the PAL is gone, no longer would you be an instant criminal for neglecting to renew your FAC, there would simply be some embarrassment at the gun counter when your purchase was refused.

Secondly in importance is the classification of firearms; if a gun was simply considered a gun, there would be no need for an ATC since you could own any type of gun once you had acquired your FAC, and you could carry the gun of your choice anywhere provided it was in an area where it is legal to carry any firearm. Your provincial wildlife act and the migratory game bird regulations would still dictate the type of gun and ammunition considered suitable for hunting, so it would be up to the province to determine if handgun hunting was appropriate. I believe most provinces would sign on.

Thirdly the seemingly innocuous safe storage regulations of C-68 must be addressed. Far too often these regulations have led to abuses committed against innocent parties by both the police and the courts, with damming consequences. Only in a police state could such regulations be allowed to stand.

CCW remains a thorny issue for many. But those who oppose it more often than not throw out the word vigilante rather than answer the question, "What is one to do when faced with lethal criminal violence?" The litmus test of any law is whether it empowers or diminishes the individual. Rights cannot be granted by governments; they can only be guaranteed or withdrawn. Most people would agree that they as individuals have the right to life. Should another individual or a group of individuals attempt to deny their potential victim of his or her right to life, under the law that victim has the right to act to save his or her life. This might be accomplished by running away, it might require the use of violence, or perhaps even lethal violence. That might well be accomplished with an axe or a knife, human history is full of such examples, but the gun is vastly superior in that it gives the individual equal footing to those who would otherwise overpower him or her by physical strength, by the use of weapons, or by the strength of numbers. CCW legislation ensures that the individual who is forced to use lethal violence is trained in the use of his firearm and is unlikely to act in such a way as to put the public at unnecessary risk.
 
Mark your argument is well taken. But regardless of whether we seek wilderness ATCs or urban CCWs, we must first address the PAL, the classification of firearms, and the safe storage regulations.

I agree completely. CCW will be the last thing gained, not the next and we have all of the above to deal with first.


Mark
 
what is the reason for not being able to biring a .22 pistol into the wilderness. my dad and i just want to be able to take a .22 pistol into the bush and just do some plinking.

The reason is that is illegal to do so. There is no other reason except that gun control jerkoffs have been in control of our minds for the last 70-80 years.

That is how it is. Don't expect reason or sense from our "justice" system - there is not and never was such a thing.
 
what is the reason for not being able to biring a .22 pistol into the wilderness. my dad and i just want to be able to take a .22 pistol into the bush and just do some plinking.

Some years ago I was in the bush with a friend , this is when I did not own a gun nor had any idea of gun laws or co's , hunting, a real know nothing. My friend had asked me to go shooting with him he brought along a 22 and a 45 both revolvers. We spent a couple of hours plinking on the way back down the mountain we run into th CO. Checks what we were doing and if we have any guns. Well the SHTF to say the least.After being escorted home guns had allready been seized , the CO had radioed ahead to the local RCMP and they were waiting for us. They searched my buddys home and confiscated all his guns. He was taken to the detachment and charged. In the end he lost all his guns , his right to own or purchase were revoked and he was fined , not sure how much. This was over 15 years ago he still is unable to get his pal. So there you go that is what a CO will do.:eek:
 
Some years ago I was in the bush with a friend , this is when I did not own a gun nor had any idea of gun laws or co's , hunting, a real know nothing. My friend had asked me to go shooting with him he brought along a 22 and a 45 both revolvers. We spent a couple of hours plinking on the way back down the mountain we run into th CO. Checks what we were doing and if we have any guns. Well the SHTF to say the least.After being escorted home guns had allready been seized , the CO had radioed ahead to the local RCMP and they were waiting for us. They searched my buddys home and confiscated all his guns. He was taken to the detachment and charged. In the end he lost all his guns , his right to own or purchase were revoked and he was fined , not sure how much. This was over 15 years ago he still is unable to get his pal. So there you go that is what a CO will do.:eek:

Thats depressing.
 
1) OP asks "why can't me & Dad biring a .22 pistol into the wilderness?"

2) OP says "Really, I wonder what a CO or anyone would do? It's only a .22"


That is blatantly discussing/suggesting "breaking the law".

Period... I suggest you "get a grip" on your reading skills, stop being so naive, & quit defending someone who's obviously breaking rules & wanting to break laws.

V:I:
You seriously need to chill man lol....:rolleyes:
 
Didnt you knw that shooting a pistol anywhere but a range will cause you to become posessed by the Devil and go shoot up the nearest orphanage :rolleyes:

Just another retarted law, nothing to see her folks
 
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