Pistols without Gun Club Memberships

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I'm taking my restricted this wednesday and was doing some studying for the test when it struck me.

You need to be a member of a gun club to have a handgun unless you're a collector. So lets say that a person is a member of a club, buys a gun and all is gravy.

Do the guys in black helicopters come and take your handguns away as soon as you're membership expires? That is when you renew your PAL will they ask if you're a member of a club, or does the gun club have to notify the CFO when your membership expires?

Edit: I should probably clarify, I have no intention of not joining a club, it's just a question regarding if the police can take something you legally obtined just because you don't belong to a club for a year or so (travelling abroad, school, etc).
 
Blistex said:
Do the guys in black helicopters come and take your handguns away as soon as you're membership expires?
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When you cease club membership, you forfeit your "right" to own a gun. (in Canada)
 
Blistex said:
Do the guys in black helicopters come and take your handguns away as soon as you're membership expires? That is when you renew your PAL will they ask if you're a member of a club, or does the gun club have to notify the CFO when your membership expires?
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It's probably different according to the province, but for the last year in NS, the CFO confirms your gun club membership every time you do any transaction; buy a new gun, get a new ATT, renew your PAL. If you don't have it, they tell you to get it, apply to be a collector, (which requires an interview with them) or get rid of them.

As secretary of my club, I get a lot of panicked calls from gun club members who have not renewed in 3-4 years that they need to renew ASAP. It usually turns out they have a PAL renewal in the works or are buying a new gun.
 
I don’t think anyone will know if you don’t renew your membership, they might just think you joined another club that's if they even care.

But if you would want to buy another gun, or when you'd have to renew your membership they (CFO and/or CFC) will want you to be a member at the club.

Not every province in the same though.
 
peter3334 said:
When you cease club membership, you forfeit your "right" to own a gun. (in Canada)
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I can't seem to find that part. Could you post a link?
 
Pistol without gun club membership

You need proof of a current membership in a APPROVED gun club to buy a handgun IF you state it is for TARGET PRACTICE. Also if you apply for an ATT this same proof is required. Once your membership expires you can still own your gun but it can not leave your home. Of course this will all change for the worse if the Liberals get in.:mad:
 
I don't believe the CFC ever checks it out if you say " I'm a member of XYZ Shooting club" .....at least they dont verify with the club I belong to. It seems to be just for their files so that if ever there is a problem with you and your firearms, say illegal activities, then they can track it and find out why your were allowed a gun.

I am only guessing here, but I think a person could pick any name of a registered gun club and tell the CFC that you are a member, even though you are not, and there would be no problems, until, like I said, there was a need for an investigation.

This is mainly to buy a gun or such...... but being stopped by the cops on the way to the range, well they might ask you for your membership, though you don't have to be a member of the club you are travelling to either, so I guess its kind of in the grey area.

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You need proof of a current membership in a APPROVED gun club to buy a handgun IF you state it is for TARGET PRACTICE. Also if you apply for an ATT this same proof is required. Once your membership expires you can still own your gun but it can not leave your home. Of course this will all change for the worse if the Liberals get in.:mad:
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I have never had to provide proof of membership, unless just telling them over the phone was proof enough. Never have I been asked by the CFC for my membership card, gun club address, specifics, etc, etc.
 
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My club membership ran out 2 months ago. I am not seekeing a renewal because as of Feruary and for the next 9 months my company has me stationed out of the country. When my ATT expired a few weeks ago I contacted the CFC to make sure I am not breaking any laws. They clearly informed me that I am not allowed to move my handguns from their current stroge location, make sure no one has access to them and I have nothing else to worry about.

Proof of membership is required when you buy your first handgun and when you obtain your first ATT. Otherwise I have never been asked for it by the CFC.
 
Proof?

jwillmoore said:
Proof of membership is required when you buy your first handgun and when you obtain your first ATT.
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What proof? I've never been asked to fax/show a copy of my membership card to anyone, either at the CFC or retail level.
 
pontcanna said:
What proof? I've never been asked to fax/show a copy of my membership card to anyone, either at the CFC or retail level.
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How odd? The CFC asked me for a copy of my membership everytime I asked for an ATT. Especially when, I purchase a new handgun in order to issue me an ATT to pickup from the dealer.
 
Just goes to show how consistent and reliable the 2 billion of our dollars made the CFC. I personally think that each "information officer" is given the freedom to interpret the law and regulations any way they want. Every time I call about the same issue I get a different awnser as is evident here. I am willing to bet the training course is nothing more than a copy of the same course manuals we recived when we took the safety course and a quick lesson on how to use Excel, because there is no doubt in my mind that the registry is probably a collection of excel spreadsheets or at best an access database, most likey it is a text file; seeing as how for 2 billion dollars they can't even stop the criminals from using at a shopping list. If people knew about the inner workings of the CFC they would clearly see that it is the most unsecure and unreliable system in the goverment. But, god knows, if your get caught with out a reg. or ATT... BAM! in the slammer. Outrageous! So banning handguns will make this all much easier as they can make room in the Excel spreadsheet.
 
i got into a dissagreement with a fella at SIR about this. i told him that all i needed was my PAL. he wouldn't sell me the hand gun. i demanded that he phone it in and no problem. the CFO asked the guy at the counter what part of POSSSION AND ACQUISITION did he not understand. when questioned about the gun club membership i just simply stated that at the time the gun was a good deal and i hadn't got around to getting a membership, but that i might sometime soon. i own a few handguns and have an ATT that reaches from Manitoba to BC on a 24-7 time span. i informed the people at the firearms office on Ellice here in Manitoba that i had family in BC and that it was not out of the question that i would get an invite to a club while visiting as well as i knew a gunsmith personally and i could drop of my guns at any time to get work done on them. this is all true and that is how i got an ATT with a 24-7 time span.
 
Here in NS they ask for proof of membership. They let mine go through when I told them the membership was pending. The supervisor at the CFO said that there is a plan for the shooting ranges here to forward a list of their membership to the CFO.
 
As I hear alot of you say put your money where your mouth is well help keep those "Target ranges " open with being a paying member and it just might also help in the long run with proving that you are a target shooter.

I`ve never voluntered to do any work at my range but I have always paid my dues on time.
I think we all need to do more to keep our awsome fun sport viable, I`m gonna try to do more.
 
pontcanna said:
What proof? I've never been asked to fax/show a copy of my membership card to anyone, either at the CFC or retail level.
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Previously I had been asked to fax a copy of my gun club membership to the CFC when registering a handgun. The Juan de Fuca Gun Club card didn't come out in the fax very well as you know it's the confederate "Stars & Bars" flag on the background of the card. I'm still a member of Juan but later I used to fax a copy of my North Saanich Rod & Gun Club card when I also became a member there. Recently, they've stopped asking for a fax copy of the membership card but when registering a handgun always ask the reason for registration [i.e. target shooting] & the name of the club. Regards, NAA.
 
Here in good old free Alberta I have yet to be asked for proof. In fact I wasn't even a member at my club when I got my first ATT. They asked if I belonged, I said yes( I did, I just hadn't paid or got my member card yet) and that was the end of that. Just renewed it here last month via snail mail and not a peep about proof. They wouldn't give me the full 5 years anywhere in the province cert but I did get 2 years unlimited access province wide( to approved ranges, gunsmiths, etc etc.)

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Thanks for the info.

I totally intend to join a club to get my handgun (prolly an XD9) and when I have it in my hot little hands I think I'll just build my own range on my property (as soon as I get out of teacher's college this year and I buy some). I like the idea of supporting a range, but the idea of actually driving somewhere to fire off my guns is quite foreign to me.

My current setup with my non-restricted rifles is to step into the back yard and start blasting targets, or targets of opportunity. Those of you that read my other thread about what it takes to get an approved private range in your back yard can probably see where I'm going with this.

p.s. If a raccoon is in your back yard, and your property is approved as a private range, can you legally shoot said offender with a handgun? Same question above, but a deer.
 
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