PK AS red dot
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Clobbersauras
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Waaay out west.
I had one a while ago mounted on my VZ 58. I loved the optics and function of the red/black dot. I hated it's weight, height and lateral distance from the bore line. Make one exactly like it that attaches to a picatinny rail and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Clobbersauras
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Waaay out west.
Link?
R u guyz talking about this model?
http://eastwave.ca/products/scopes/pk01.html said:Waterproof automatic Red Dot Collimator rifle sight scope PK 01 for AK and Weaver
The sight has an outer aluminium alloy's hull. It's filled with azote for preventing internal misting of lenticles at large gang of temperatures. The sight has a very sharp laying mark.
$245 Item #0501
PerversPépère
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- Shawinigan (Quebec)
Where did you buy that Cobra sight? I have the Weaver/Picatinny lever mounted one but the sidemount option is a lot more interesting.
Is it in line with the receiver? Does it clear the stripper clip path?
PP.
Is it in line with the receiver? Does it clear the stripper clip path?
PP.
Does anyone have experience with these sights? I was thinking of getting the AK version from Eastwave which sits closer over the bore. Appreciate any comments or suggestions.
I own one of each of the versions (overbore version, original military side version and the weaver version.
I originally bought them as accountremonts for my small AK collection, but have used them for my czech arms and other rifles.
The version you have on your picture is the overbore one. You won't be able to mount it on a Czech Arms rifle without modifying the mount on the rifle. The offset version uses the dragonov style mount and will fit with no modifications. Although I had to bend back the rear sling swivel (on the folding stock) with some pliers so that it wouldn't interfere with mounting the unit (which otherwise wouldn't clear it).
At the time I ordered mine, these were significantly cheaper than the EOtechs and Aimpoint units out there (not so much now unfortunately). I liked the fact that they were not electronic and battery dependent as well (even though with battery life being what it is in the Aimpoints, this argument is moot). You can always trust the Russians for low tech solutions
.Anyhow, zeroing the units was initially a maddening experience. The manual wasn't a total help, but with trial and error I figured things out quickly. There are no click adjustments, it is a "friction" adjustment system with lock screws.
Windage adjustment is 7.5 cm per division and elevation is 5 cm per division--pretty coarse but adequate for a cqb type sight. You can always adjust and guesstimate by friction adjusting within these marked divisions to get smaller impact adjustments.
For top ejecting rifles, I'd go with the side/offset model (less likely to interfere with case ejection--plus you're more likely to be able to access the locking adjustment screws without removing the unit from the rifle), although I found with the side/offset model I had a tendancy to tilt/cant the rifle to the right (for a rt hand shooter) while firing so as to get a better cheek weld. This of course screwed up any longer range shots you take because of rifle canting. (I'm the kinda guy who uses his black rifles for longer range shots so it's a bigger deal to me than people who're just shooting 25-50 m).
I still like these units, but as in everything, they have their pluses and minuses. I hope this helps you. If anything else comes to mind, feel free to let me know.
Zupermann, I specifically ordered the over-bore mount so that I wouldn't have to look through the scope with my left eye. Even though I keep both eyes open, using my left eye to superimpose a sight picture seemed foreign to me so I went with the AK version. What do you mean about modifying the mount on the Vz? I ordered an AK/Saiga mount along with the sight itself, would I have any problems with this? My rifle doesn't have a mount yet so I'll have to tap and drill the one I ordered onto it. Originally I was going to go with a Comp4 but the idea of having a western sight on this rifle would probably make me look like a fudd, plus the Belarussian sights I hear, are issued to Russian units. And of course the price is half that of an Aimpoint.
Sorry for potentially freaking you out! You'll be okay with having an AK rail installed on your Vz, as it'll fit with the mount shown on the overbore model (above).
I thought you had a Czech Arms Vz (as I do), which already have a mounting rail installed on the left side of the rifle. This particular rail doesn't accept the AK type mounts without milling or filing a relief hole (for the throw lever) in the rail mount itself.
I've heard of people shooting the offset models using their left eye (so as to help maintain a good cheekweld, and to prevent canting), but this is not how they were intended to be used. Use your right eye (assuming you're a right hander and rt eyed dominant) and modify your cheek weld to more of a "side cheek" weld. It's easier to do with full as well as tubular stocked rifles than with the strut-like folder the vz's come with, but wrapping some thick pipe insulation around the strut stock helps alot in this regard
I agree with you that it would look weird and out of place for an Eastern Bloc rifle with an aimpoint on it. If you're trying to keep your rifle geographically and historically accurate as you can, east-bloc optics are the way to go.
Good luck on your installation. Let us know how things work out with the sight unit.
