Please Help Me Keep My .357
- Thread starter Munny
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One mm is enough. Keeping it and couselling somebody to keep an unlicenced/unregistered prohibited firearm is a criminal offence.
Your options are to get your da to send it to a smithy who can and will get or has a longer barrel, sell it to an individual, museum or business with a licence, export it, have it deactivated or turn it in for destruction.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/will-testament-eng.htm
There's no 5 year rule. It's "a reasonable time". No mention of what that means. You must have an RPAL if it gets a new barrel too. Your da does not as executor, but he gets to decided what happens to it.
Where you are matters a bit. Epp's(site sponsor) is licenced to deal with prohibited stuff, but it absolutely must be registered as a prohibited now or no smithy will touch it. Isn't worth risking their licence. They want $115 to deactivate(makes it a lump of steel) and de-register it.
Call 'em.
Your options are to get your da to send it to a smithy who can and will get or has a longer barrel, sell it to an individual, museum or business with a licence, export it, have it deactivated or turn it in for destruction.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/will-testament-eng.htm
There's no 5 year rule. It's "a reasonable time". No mention of what that means. You must have an RPAL if it gets a new barrel too. Your da does not as executor, but he gets to decided what happens to it.
Where you are matters a bit. Epp's(site sponsor) is licenced to deal with prohibited stuff, but it absolutely must be registered as a prohibited now or no smithy will touch it. Isn't worth risking their licence. They want $115 to deactivate(makes it a lump of steel) and de-register it.
Call 'em.
kschneider
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- southern ontario
I am facing the same thing, as my dad has 4" prohibs I will not be able to get, and the biggest pis*off is that guns like that are prohib supposedly due to easy concealability, I say bul*sh*t, when you can buy an Alpha Proj short cylinder 9mm, that, by manipulating the law, has an external barrel equal to a 4" prohib. Made even more a ridiculous by the Boberg. It is just so sickeningly stupid. I will just have to sell them for a dollar to one of the guys in my club that have 12/6, at least I will be able to still shoot them on club night. Only option for me.
S&W wheelgun with 4" barrel [a prohib] is actually larger OAL than a 1911 with a 5" barrel [a restricted].
So, you are quite correct with that.
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NAA.
kschneider
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- Location
- southern ontario
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- Some days I really wonder ?
That's exactly what I told a friend the other day. Totally 100 % BS at its finest !
I bought an almost new, in the box with papers, M13 a couple of months ago (on EE) for $250. It came from a police force. I bought 4 similar revolvers. Others were M10s and M14s.
12.6 guns don't sell well until the price gets cut. Those of us with a 12.6 already have a bucket of them.
I wonder if you could have the short barrel removed by a gunsmith, and just keep the frame, registered as a "receiver only" and them keep an eye out for a barrel. When someone double charges a gun and blows the cylinder off, you might find a donor barrel.
12.6 guns don't sell well until the price gets cut. Those of us with a 12.6 already have a bucket of them.
I wonder if you could have the short barrel removed by a gunsmith, and just keep the frame, registered as a "receiver only" and them keep an eye out for a barrel. When someone double charges a gun and blows the cylinder off, you might find a donor barrel.
I just sold a 586 barrel , last one I had.
There seems to be some confusion here?
Is the gun registered in the "new system" now?
Green slip, Plastic card, or yellow paper?
They can be sold to other 12-6, you can't " just take it to the range", unless it is registered to YOU
And I don't see the prices coming down any, at least on stuff I like.
marshall
There seems to be some confusion here?
Is the gun registered in the "new system" now?
Green slip, Plastic card, or yellow paper?
They can be sold to other 12-6, you can't " just take it to the range", unless it is registered to YOU
And I don't see the prices coming down any, at least on stuff I like.
marshall
There is no such thing as a 6" model 13 so you won't find a non-prohibited barrel (unless you luck into a rare over length factory barrel which do exist)
There were a ton of 5" model 10's (38 SPL version of M-13) out there however and you should be able to find a barrel especially a tapered pencil barrel. I'd be surprised if MD charlton didn't have a cardboard box of them from all the Ppc guns he's built.
You see 5" model 10'barrels on the EE here for $50-75 pretty regularly,
Charlton has re threaded 586 barrels to k frame size, but a 13 has a fixed sight in the top strap and the 586 sight will be too tall.
There were a ton of 5" model 10's (38 SPL version of M-13) out there however and you should be able to find a barrel especially a tapered pencil barrel. I'd be surprised if MD charlton didn't have a cardboard box of them from all the Ppc guns he's built.
You see 5" model 10'barrels on the EE here for $50-75 pretty regularly,
Charlton has re threaded 586 barrels to k frame size, but a 13 has a fixed sight in the top strap and the 586 sight will be too tall.
It would be well worth the inquiry. But since the barrels did not belong to him I'd guess that they would be sent back along with the worked up gun and PPC barrel.
But it does suggest that there should be a good number of long barrels out there.
Mind you putting a .38Spl barrel onto a 19 would likely mean that you'd want to limit it to shooting .38's. I don't know if the metal from the .38Spl guns is any weaker or not. But I'd hate to find out the hard way.
It looks to be a Model 13 as of the recent update which makes it even tougher to find a 105mm+ barrel. I'm thinking it'd be best sold "as is" and the funds used to purchase another revolver with a restricted-length barrel in your Uncle's memory
Agreed. In a better world, he could call the CFC and get a temporary exemption to allow him to sell or fix.
In the best world, we would have no 12x prohibs. 3mm doesn't make this gun kill any more babies. Ian is no more a terrorist or a criminal than anyone else here. So sad...
Thank you for all the replies and PMs.
We had a local guy come through with a few barrels, but they were too short.
I will be in contact with a few people on the board, and with some luck, we'll be able to make things legit.
Buying a new revolver isn't in my interest, nor is welding it shut.
However, there are a few prohibs in his collection that won't be getting the same treatment. A H&R .38, and a Beretta 950 .22.
Thank you all again. I will update when I have worthy news.
Take care,
Ian
We had a local guy come through with a few barrels, but they were too short.
I will be in contact with a few people on the board, and with some luck, we'll be able to make things legit.
Buying a new revolver isn't in my interest, nor is welding it shut.
However, there are a few prohibs in his collection that won't be getting the same treatment. A H&R .38, and a Beretta 950 .22.
Thank you all again. I will update when I have worthy news.
Take care,
Ian
While I agree about C-68 I would have to disagree about prices. Except for the real junk it appears to me that 12/6 guns are getting unreasonably high. Just last week there were two S&W snubbies for sale (19 & 66) on the EE for $600 each. Both sold. Prohib Pythons In the $900-1000 range. Smith 639 for $700 (also sold). Even Model 10 Smiths @ $275 are going for not much less than what they were worth new. Keep in mind that any prohibs in existence are (as of Feb. 2015) at least 20 years old. What were these guns worth new 20 years ago? In most cases substantially less than what they are selling for today. Given the cloning pool of 12/6 buyers I'm shocked that 12/6 prices are so high. I guess people have forgotten what's going to happen to all of then eventually.
