Please school me on rimfire sbr rules

Barrel length

(2) For the purposes of this Part, the length of a barrel of a firearm is

(a) in the case of a revolver, the distance from the muzzle of the barrel to the breach end immediately in front of the cylinder, and


(b) in any other case, the distance from the muzzle of the barrel to and including the chamber,


but does not include the length of any component, part or accessory including any component, part or accessory designed or intended to suppress the muzzle flash or reduce recoil.
 
little_airwolf said:
Barrel length

(2) For the purposes of this Part, the length of a barrel of a firearm is

(a) in the case of a revolver, the distance from the muzzle of the barrel to the breach end immediately in front of the cylinder, and


(b) in any other case, the distance from the muzzle of the barrel to and including the chamber,


but does not include the length of any component, part or accessory including any component, part or accessory designed or intended to suppress the muzzle flash or reduce recoil.
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Good thing we are discussing overall length, and not barrel length.

With overall length being the overall length of the whole, complete gun.

The whole length, over the whole gun, all of it.
 
fenceline said:
Good thing we are discussing overall length, and not barrel length.

With overall length being the overall length of the whole, complete gun.

The whole length, over the whole gun, all of it.
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To be fair it is not just one or the other, you have to abide by both sections to meet the legal requirements to classify the firearm.

Shawn
 
I now see the conflict. The CCC states what the barrel length is, however the complete length of the right might or might not include muzzle device.
 
Rimfire don't have to comply with minimum barrel length requirement. Only overall length. Simple question...does a muzzle brake add to overall length? So many posts and no answer.
 
I think it's pretty simple, if your rifle ends up in from of the firearms lab technician, the are going to fold the stock if it can be folded, and they are going to unscrew your muzzle device if it's not pinned, and then they are going to measure it. They are not your friends trying to find a way to help you, they are looking for any excuse to pull your licence and melt your gun. So you make the call.
 
......when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm
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would the addition and or removal of the compensator or flash hider not be 'or by other means'?

at the end of the day Rain is right, assume they fine gentlemen from the RCMP lab are out to get you and base your decision off of that.
if i had to make a choice to go 26 1/4 or 26 im going with the extra 1/4".
my license and collection are worth more to me then 1/4" of barrel.
 
Rain112 said:
I think it's pretty simple, if your rifle ends up in from of the firearms lab technician, the are going to fold the stock if it can be folded, and they are going to unscrew your muzzle device if it's not pinned, and then they are going to measure it. They are not your friends trying to find a way to help you, they are looking for any excuse to pull your licence and melt your gun. So you make the call.
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If this were the case they could unscrew the stock on my sr22 or remove the barrel and action from the stock. In both cases it would not meet OAL and still be able to be fired.
 
Juster said:
26.1" is 662.94mm. Why did you convert 662.94 to millimeters? 660" is 25.9843mm.
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Actually I didn't convert anything... just regurgitated another posters conversion and didn't check the math...

Just did the math; 660mm = 25.9843" as you suggest....

Very well then, 26"...
 
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wayupnorth said:
would the addition and or removal of the compensator or flash hider not be 'or by other means'?
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I agree... "overall length" is stock, action, barrel... and my interpretation is that does NOT include a threaded muzzle device or extended unpinned stock or a "slip on" recoil pad... also, why in one section on "barrel length" would the removable muzzle device NOT be included in the length, but in another section on minimum "overall length" of the entire firearm, the removable muzzle device "is" included in the measurement?

I disagree with fenceline... I believe he is incorrect. But, I guess he is right about one thing, someone here doesn't understand plain English, which is excusable... because "plain English" is never used in legislation.
 
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hoytcanon said:
I agree... "overall length" is stock, action, barrel... and my interpretation is that does NOT include a threaded muzzle device or extended unpinned stock or a "slip on" recoil pad... also, why in one section on "barrel length" would the removable muzzle device NOT be included in the length, but in another section on minimum "overall length" of the entire firearm, the removable muzzle device "is" included in the measurement?

I disagree with fenceline... I believe he is incorrect. But, I guess he is right, someone here doesn't understand plain English... not that "plain English" is ever used in legislation.
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I would assume they wanted to prevent people from just screwing a section of threaded pipe to the end of guns to make them legal.

Shawn
 
Well it makes sense to me... The barrel length it the length of the barrel only, nothing added onto it. But the overall length is with it on because it's the total length of the firearm.

Stupid rules are stupid
 
hoytcanon said:
I disagree with fenceline... I believe he is incorrect. But, I guess he is right about one thing, someone here doesn't understand plain English, which is excusable... because "plain English" is never used in legislation.
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The problem is that it is written in plain english. The whole ANY OTHER MEANS is the problem.

The way I see it oal means just that, barrel length has nothing to do with it. If I get stop with my rifle and I get charged with a crime, so be it.
 
X2guy said:
Rimfire don't have to comply with minimum barrel length requirement. Only overall length...
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As long as the barrel is over 4 1/8" and OAL is over 26"...

The quandry of this thread appears to be the definition of "OAL" and what can be included in that measurement.

I have stated what I believe it to mean.
 
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