Poaching is one thing the problem with Ottawa at least is everyone in the city that wants to shoot comes and trespasses to illegally poach I find shot animals several times a year deer left with only racks removed I also find over a dozen new ground blinds and tree stands every year on my private property and even find the odd hunter who got permission for someones brother 10 years ago there is lots of land to shoot the Marlboro forest is 5000+acres and open to public for shooting also most farmers don't mind if you get permission first
Police visits while shooting - Looking for new place to toss rocks
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In Bantario the only signs you will see payed for by the MNR say this road closed to public use, or if your an Ontario tax payer you can't use this lake unless you fly in from southern Ontario using a outfitter that is lining the Liberal Goverments pockets.
JDForBrkFst
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Roughly North Central AB
I don't have numbers but I've lived in both ends of the country and poaching seemed far more prevelant in certain parts out east. Take it with a grain of salt.
Speaking of garbage and shooting refuse. I took the family camping this weekend to a remote spot I found scouting. It's a rough drive in the last bit, fire pit there looked like it hadn't been used in years. Brush growing up in it. Even there I found garbage and old shot hulls. We took out more garbage from others than we produced there ourselves.
Speaking of garbage and shooting refuse. I took the family camping this weekend to a remote spot I found scouting. It's a rough drive in the last bit, fire pit there looked like it hadn't been used in years. Brush growing up in it. Even there I found garbage and old shot hulls. We took out more garbage from others than we produced there ourselves.
coleman1495
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Whitecourt
Typically the maps are available from the county/regional office. I would call the the local office and see with them.
Besides isn't everywhere outside of the city of Yellowknife public land? Theres no farms/acreages up there.
DNR email them.
Then the LEOs need to be punishing the poachers and not everyone else.
But poaching makes for a convenient excuse for anti gun bureaucrats to make blanket rules prohibiting firearms from cottages and crown land.
If you need to apply for a permit to take a non-restricted firearm out of your home that firearm is for all intents and purposes a restricted firearm.
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The governments historically do a great job of managing wildlife resources with their hair brained schemes like the east coast cod fishery and the moose herd in Ontario.
Most Ontario outfitters I know have a hard enough time lining their own pockets.
When the Harris government got bought by the antis and closed the spring bear season many outfitters went belly up.
Goes to show that you can NEVER trust a politician or a political party.
I've seen roads posted against public use because of the garbage dumping.
If me or my hubby see vandalism, garbage dumping, littering and poaching by those who are taking the racks and meat for profit (sale) rather than sustenance we get busy with our smartphones taking images of perps, illegal game, license plates etc.
Our info has taken one serious offender out of the bush with a lifetime ban on hunting.
Papa tgg is admittedly getting long in the tooth but a perp would make a mistake confronting him physically as he is a veteran from the US military with his last stint as a small arms and hand to hand combat instructor.
Almost wish one would try so he could defend himself and get it in the news to help stop the ######s. Sick and tired of finding garbage and entrails just left in the middle of a fireroad where I shoot. As a GTA person finding places I can shoot, besides the club, is rare and losing it would be unacceptable.
The governments historically do a great job of managing wildlife resources with their hair brained schemes like the east coast cod fishery and the moose herd in Ontario.
And what happened in the past when hunting was not regulated/left to individuals to decide for themselves? (Buffalo, whales, etc)
If you can regulate hunting in this country better, time for you to apply for the position to do so
If decimating once healthy animal populations to near extinction is the paradigm you are defending I probably could do better and for a lot less than the taxpayers are paying the so-called experts.
Then do it.....
I have seen the effects of poaching in various areas in my over 30 years of hunting. sure it is not global extinction but it has been virtual extinction of that species in that given area by so called "subsistence" hunters not following the rules we already have.
Last time I called in to report, it was going to be a week before anyone from the ministry could come out and investigate, by that time the evidence is long gone by predators, new snow has filled all the tracks and I am long finished my trip and gone home.
Being the OP, can I hijack my own thread? Either way, I'm going to.
I'm going to start with a little warning, this post is going to sound pro government... shocking!
It is silly when people talk about having the right to a subsistence lifestyle; "Living off the land and hunting as our god given right". That is not entirely true. We live in a society. And as much as one might believe they have the right to not participate in certain aspects of society, that is not entirely true. We are alive in the vast numbers that we have grace to the society we live in.
Look at the numbers. There's a simple population study based on fox and hare populations; google it if you like. The gist of it is that the predator's population follows that of the prey. Also, the prey's population must be superior to the predator's... by about an order of magnitude (x10). There's less than half a million deer in Ontario, I'm pretty sure there's more than 50,000 humans. Alberta estimates a quarter million deer, which could support a predator population of 25,000.
Moral of the story, chances are the majority of us exist because society has streamlined processes to provide subsidence for the masses. An individual does not have the right to reap the benefits of something to then not pay the price of that thing. And that's the sad reality, so make the best of it.
I respect your opinion.
