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I hear you on the barrel thing, the one Bill leeper is doing up for me is going to be an espress sight rifle , so a bit longer sighting plain is good .
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Poll for the Ruger no. 1 .303
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Northern Boater
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I don't think any of us with any loading experience are wanting the longer bbl for velocity gains, I have numerous rifles that can easily achieve or exceed the 303 Brit, I personally don't load at maximum levels for hunting rifles anyway, trying to achieve a look and as others have said a longer site radius, for me this is a fun gun that will go hunting occasionally and possibly a chance to get something different than normally offered, a 26" bbl with sites is different, an RSI or other "bush" configuration is readily available in numerous calibres that can replicate and exceed the 303.
exactly, it's NOT available in a .303. hence the special order. if I wanted a long barrel and open sights I pick up a sporter enfield or P14.
personally, I don't own guns that "occasionally" hunt. a 1-A would become a primary hunting rifle.
Northern Boater
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As said I've ordered one regardless of configuration to help Clay move this forward, does the chambering make it special, sure, as special as a configuration not available from the catalogue, no. No it won't be my primary rifle, my standby wears a long action and 26" bbl and am quite positive it has been packed through thick crap to places most dream of, more so than 90 % of hunters, but also use everything in my cabinet, chances are my occasional use is considerably more than most folks primary rifle sees. Couldn't imagine hunting with one rifle
I would be happy with that aswell.
I'm more concerned about weight than OAL.
A 1-A Light sporter with 24" bbl would be a good compromise in this debate.
Goes for me too...
Sounds good to me
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that raises another question. ruger makes the medium sporter in a couple different lengths, but would they do it in the light sporter as well? somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but i've only seen the 1-a with 22".
do they make all their barrels (in a model) from the same blanks? ie do all the 1-a barrels have the same o.d. and do all the 1-s barrels have the same o.d?
do they make all their barrels (in a model) from the same blanks? ie do all the 1-a barrels have the same o.d. and do all the 1-s barrels have the same o.d?
Good Idea but.....
.... I didn't Vote, as it would be one vote that is immaterial. I wouldn't be buying one, NOT because I wouldn't like to, but simply because I couldn't justify the cost, on our Budget. I would also, as a Hand-loader, advise against the 303 British, not because it's a poor Caliber, but because, for a Hand-loader it's a PITA ! ( Case separation ).... The idea however is a good one, and certainly it would be nice, for those that can afford to, to have the opportunity to buy one if it were ever produced ! .... David K
.... I didn't Vote, as it would be one vote that is immaterial. I wouldn't be buying one, NOT because I wouldn't like to, but simply because I couldn't justify the cost, on our Budget. I would also, as a Hand-loader, advise against the 303 British, not because it's a poor Caliber, but because, for a Hand-loader it's a PITA ! ( Case separation ).... The idea however is a good one, and certainly it would be nice, for those that can afford to, to have the opportunity to buy one if it were ever produced ! .... David K
Good Idea but.....
.... I didn't Vote, as it would be one vote that is immaterial. I wouldn't be buying one, NOT because I wouldn't like to, but simply because I couldn't justify the cost, on our Budget. I would also, as a Hand-loader, advise against the 303 British, not because it's a poor Caliber, but because, for a Hand-loader it's a PITA ! ( Case separation ).... The idea however is a good one, and certainly it would be nice, for those that can afford to, to have the opportunity to buy one, if it were ever produced ! .... David K
.... I didn't Vote, as it would be one vote that is immaterial. I wouldn't be buying one, NOT because I wouldn't like to, but simply because I couldn't justify the cost, on our Budget. I would also, as a Hand-loader, advise against the 303 British, not because it's a poor Caliber, but because, for a Hand-loader it's a PITA ! ( Case separation ).... The idea however is a good one, and certainly it would be nice, for those that can afford to, to have the opportunity to buy one, if it were ever produced ! .... David K
.... I didn't Vote, as it would be one vote that is immaterial. I wouldn't be buying one, NOT because I wouldn't like to, but simply because I couldn't justify the cost, on our Budget. I would also, as a Hand-loader, advise against the 303 British, not because it's a poor Caliber, but because, for a Hand-loader it's a PITA ! ( Case separation ).... The idea however is a good one, and certainly it would be nice, for those that can afford to, to have the opportunity to buy one, if it were ever produced ! .... David K
I am going to suggest that the case separation issue is largely a result of sloppy military chambers and springy actions [Lee-Enfields and Winchester 1895's] In a tight solid action like a Ruger #1, I believe that you can safely say this will NOT be an issue. I have two 303 Brits in P14's, and neither if them are a problem as to case separation. AAMOF, I have some brass that is on it's 8th firing, and is just fine. [These are stout loads, too, using 308 Winchester data (don't go near this with a LE rifle)] I would buy one of these #1's in a heartbeat, and would expect zero problems with the cases in it. Regards, Eagleye.
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Even in LE, it can reloaded w/o case head sep. issue. Simply ned to resize just enough to do the job. The milspec chamber calls for longer than necessary chamber specs to allow for dirt and other stuff that could jam the rifle out of action in combat situations.
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I agree with Eagleye and Supercub
I think that a 1A with a 24" tube is an excellent idea. If they have to source 250 barrels then they can spec them to be finished at 2". I would personally rather see the 22" (or maybe a really unique 21"
) just because I like a carbine feel. In retort, I don't understand where some are getting the idea of nostalgia about long barrelled single shot 303's of old. It certainly wasn't a Canadian thing, nor are there any significant rifle of English origin that can be recalled.
I think the idea of a stalking rifle in single shot platform in a commercially unavailable cartridge is what is appealling to most, and the idea of a 1A with a 24" tube is by far the best comprimise as of yet.
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Enfields, with their single locking lugs and not-so perfect chambers, are prone to this, as was already stated..... I didn't Vote, as it would be one vote that is immaterial. I wouldn't be buying one, NOT because I wouldn't like to, but simply because I couldn't justify the cost, on our Budget. I would also, as a Hand-loader, advise against the 303 British, not because it's a poor Caliber, but because, for a Hand-loader it's a PITA ! ( Case separation ).... The idea however is a good one, and certainly it would be nice, for those that can afford to, to have the opportunity to buy one if it were ever produced ! .... David K
A Martini however or oither strong single shot , does not have the same problems, and none of the No.4 Enfields that I have shot that are rechambered in .308 Winchester have that problem either, mainly because the barrels are chambered properly.
Joe Gibault made some excellent long range rifles back in the day on No.4 actions, in 308 Winchester.
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