Popular misconceptions about hunting rifles.

track said:
Agreed, I would never recommend a Remington, especially the most recent manufactured rifles of any model. For the past 18 years the Remington's have been grossly lethargic in quality control, in particular, safety issues. However, I believe that they are a good rifle (Model 700) if a person wishes to build around it, convert it into a custom. There is a multitude of after market parts, at fair price to complete a custom rifle without breaking the bank.
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New rifles are better than old ones . Or the " new and improved " modifications are for the customer and not for cheaper manufacturing
 
guntech said:
Not really... I am sure there are errors in that vast website, but in general it can make everyone more knowledgeable.

Here is an old myth...

When shooting a scoped rifle the bullet rises and crosses the cross hair twice...
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For most rifles zeroed past 100yards the bullet will rise from the muzzle cross the cross-hair at around 50 yards then fall to the point of aim.
 
guntech said:
Not really... I am sure there are errors in that vast website, but in general it can make everyone more knowledgeable.

Here is an old myth...

When shooting a scoped rifle the bullet rises and crosses the cross hair twice...
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I have argued that point with buddies, even drawing them pictures lol

Sniper_485 said:
For most rifles zeroed past 100yards the bullet will rise from the muzzle cross the cross-hair at around 50 yards then fall to the point of aim.
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The bullet doesn't rise, gravity sees to that, in fact it starts to fall immediately upon leaving the muzzle...exponentially so as velocity diminishes.
 
BrotherRockeye said:
The bullet doesn't rise, gravity sees to that, in fact it starts to fall immediately upon leaving the muzzle...exponentially so as velocity diminishes.
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the bore axis is angled up compared to the scope's so the bullet does rise but there are scenarios where it doesn't cross the horizontal reticle twice.
 
flashman2 said:
I take his point as being two entirely separate cartridges; the .458 WM and .458 Lott don't share a common ancestor.
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Is this true? I thought that Jack Lott created the .458Lott by simply hand-reaming a .458Win out to accommodate a longer case. Not trying to be argumentative here, just curious.

Slamfire said:
A bullet fired from a rifle has only linear kinetic energy when in fact it also has rotational energy.
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I'm sorry, I simply can't believe this. I will require at least four posts laden with charts, drawings, photos, calculations and tongue-out-smilies to accept the premise.

Buckmastr said:
That an animal will know if it is shot with a 375 Ruger compared to a 375 H&H
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This is a common one. In truth, the animals are dead either way...but the ones shot with the Ruger die of embarrassment...:)
 
polaris said:
you mean 30 Luger, because the 30 Mauser and the 7.62 Tokarev are basically the same thing copied by the sowiets.
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No, I mean .30 Mauser. If you follow the discussion, the misconception raised was that it's always unsafe to fire a cartridge in a firearm not chambered for it. The example of why that's a misconception is that a firearm chambered in 7.62 Tok can safely fire .30 Mauser. .30 Luger is too short to chamber and fire in either of the others.
 
jjohnwm said:
Is this true? I thought that Jack Lott created the .458Lott by simply hand-reaming a .458Win out to accommodate a longer case. Not trying to be argumentative here, just curious.
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No, it's not true. I had a brain fart. Both are based on the .375 H&H... but Lott did develop the cartridge independently, as opposed to simply reaming out a .458 WM chamber. Though I'll grant the end result was basically the same as if he had?
 
BrotherRockeye said:
Thanks for the lesson :rolleyes:

Examples of those scenarios?
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According to JBM its possible if the scope is mounted very high above the bore, and the zero range is shorter than normal for velocity. The numbers I used were a .308/150 Nosler BT at 3000 fps, zeroed for 130 yards, with the scope mounted 5" above the bore. The bullet comes to the line of sight, but doesn't cross it, even using 1 yard increments. I think we can agree its an unlikely scenario in the real world.
 
Sniper_485 said:
For most rifles zeroed past 100yards the bullet will rise from the muzzle cross the cross-hair at around 50 yards then fall to the point of aim.
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A bullet rising from the muzzle is a myth...

Draw an imaginary line through the center of the bore, extended to as far as you would like... point the rifle more or less level... a bullet fired through this barrel will begin dropping immediately upon exiting the muzzle. It will never rise above the center of the bore. The bullet doesn't rise, the scope is angled downwards and intersects the bullet trajectory. The trajectory is always below the center of the barrel and dropping more and more with distance traveled.

This is factual, not a myth.
 
^ guntech knows
in a relativistic world it's either the scope being angled downwards or the bore angled upwards.
it's all in the reference axis.
 
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