Popular misconceptions about hunting rifles.

the bore axis is angled up compared to the scope's so the bullet does rise but there are scenarios where it doesn't cross the horizontal reticle twice.

Actually the scope's axis is angled downward to intersect the bullet trajectory. The bullet does not rise. The downward angle of the scope is done within the base and rings...
 
Here's one to make a novice's head hurt. Two rifles, a .25/20 and a .257 Weatherby are held level a foot above the ground, and both are fired at the same instant. The bullets from both rifles hit the ground at exactly the same time, since gravity exerts it's force equally on everything.
 
Here's one to make a novice's head hurt. Two rifles, a .25/20 and a .257 Weatherby are held level a foot above the ground, and both are fired at the same instant. The bullets from both rifles hit the ground at exactly the same time, since gravity exerts it's force equally on everything.

At the same time, but a LONG way from each other...
 
What??? No references cited?

Another CGN account has obviously been hacked...

The internet is like the bible... if you look hard enough, and selectively choose your text, you can find support for all sorts of nonsense...
 
At the same time, but a LONG way from each other...

Yes same as dropping a bullet from 24" high will hit the ground at the same time a 50cal bmg will if fired level with the ground 24" above it

Myth busters did it with a 9mm hand gun and dropped a 9mm bullet from the same height. They hit the exact same time but one was 550 feet down range
 
According to JBM its possible if the scope is mounted very high above the bore, and the zero range is shorter than normal for velocity. The numbers I used were a .308/150 Nosler BT at 3000 fps, zeroed for 130 yards, with the scope mounted 5" above the bore. The bullet comes to the line of sight, but doesn't cross it, even using 1 yard increments. I think we can agree its an unlikely scenario in the real world.

Most definitely.
I was kinds hoping the fella that suggested it would further educate me with the scenarios he mentioned...
so the bullet does rise but there are scenarios where it doesn't cross the horizontal reticle twice
Sorted sounded as though it crossed once but not twice, rather than just meeting it. I'm curious to know how...


A bullet rising from the muzzle is a myth...

Draw an imaginary line through the center of the bore, extended to as far as you would like... point the rifle more or less level... a bullet fired through this barrel will begin dropping immediately upon exiting the muzzle. It will never rise above the center of the bore. The bullet doesn't rise, the scope is angled downwards and intersects the bullet trajectory. The trajectory is always below the center of the barrel and dropping more and more with distance traveled.

This is factual, not a myth.

Actually the scope's axis is angled downward to intersect the bullet trajectory. The bullet does not rise. The downward angle of the scope is done within the base and rings...

Thank you.

I didn't even have to draw any pictures. Wish you had been at my neighbors having beer with us a few years back...coulda saved a lot of frustration :)
 
The internet is like the bible... if you look hard enough, and selectively choose your text, you can find support for all sorts of nonsense...

As someone who was raised conservative evangelical, spent years in pastoral/religious study, and then turned agnostic if not atheist because of that study - I am compelled to quote this for posterity. Well said sir!
 
A bullet rising from the muzzle is a myth...

Draw an imaginary line through the center of the bore, extended to as far as you would like... point the rifle more or less level... a bullet fired through this barrel will begin dropping immediately upon exiting the muzzle. It will never rise above the center of the bore. The bullet doesn't rise, the scope is angled downwards and intersects the bullet trajectory. The trajectory is always below the center of the barrel and dropping more and more with distance traveled.

This is factual, not a myth.

Dang. Nice one. The best yet, actually.
 
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Here's one to make a novice's head hurt. Two rifles, a .25/20 and a .257 Weatherby are held level a foot above the ground, and both are fired at the same instant. The bullets from both rifles hit the ground at exactly the same time, since gravity exerts it's force equally on everything.

For sure... just that one of those bullets will have covered a lot more distance on the way to the ground...
 
Most definitely.
I was kinds hoping the fella that suggested it would further educate me with the scenarios he mentioned...
Sorted sounded as though it crossed once but not twice, rather than just meeting it. I'm curious to know how...

Fire a rifle with the line of sight straight up. The bullet will cross the line of sight once. But since the bullet can't "rise" I guess it will just come out the muzzle and slide down the outside of the barrel.
 
Fire a rifle with the line of sight straight up. The bullet will cross the line of sight once. But since the bullet can't "rise" I guess it will just come out the muzzle and slide down the outside of the barrel.

Another CGN classic returns from the grave: we're shooting into space again! :)
 
Biggest misconception is that guns are mere inanimate objects and that its the person behind the rifle that is the real killer, not the gun. In truth, I've owned killer rifles that would positively leap up to my shoulder when game was sighted and fire and put down that game before I even had time to think. Aside from the slight twitch of one finger, I barely participated.
 
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