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POS Remington rant
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rockOn:
now, why would one have to "flick the safety off" to unload this rifle?
Where can I get some of this Remington Koolaid so I too can send my only son out into the bush with a proven faulty rifle and rest easy knowing I have "stuck it to the man".
I know that coporate America always watches our backs as proven in the robust economy we and the Americans have been enjoying.
Walker was brilliant in designing this trigger and had totally lost his mind in the next years when he wanted to make the design safer.
I also understand that somehow all of these people have brought these problems on themselves for not having thier new rifles stripped and cleaned by a gun smith and/or have dared to adjust the adjustable triggers.
I also understand that if it is 1 in 50,000 with bad triggers that there are 49,999 people going to say they have had no problem with thier trigger.
Let's do the math here. I have one son and it cost me more to fill the hunting truck up than to replace this faulty trigger.....what to do? what to do?
I know that coporate America always watches our backs as proven in the robust economy we and the Americans have been enjoying.
Walker was brilliant in designing this trigger and had totally lost his mind in the next years when he wanted to make the design safer.
I also understand that somehow all of these people have brought these problems on themselves for not having thier new rifles stripped and cleaned by a gun smith and/or have dared to adjust the adjustable triggers.
I also understand that if it is 1 in 50,000 with bad triggers that there are 49,999 people going to say they have had no problem with thier trigger.
Let's do the math here. I have one son and it cost me more to fill the hunting truck up than to replace this faulty trigger.....what to do? what to do?
I will buy any unwanted, evil 700's for $50 to $75 a piece dependent on condition, of course... Look at it this way: I'm saving you from a potential disaster for a minimal fee, kinda like insurance... Who doesn't need insurance? The least I can do for my fellow CGN'ers...
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
The 700 is actually a pretty crappy rifle, even aside from its trigger issue. It has a 3 piece, brazed together bolt, and a soldered on bolt handle. It is built for nothing other than to be cheap to manufacture, that's why the US military has it as well; it's cheaper than the other options. Competitors offer one piece bolts, and real extractors (the Rem 700's is akin to a paper clip), at the same price point.
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That's not the point guys. It might only be a few bucks to fix but the point is it should have NEVER come like that.
What would you do if your brand new truck had a failure that led to you nearly wrapping it aground a pole? Fix the problem out of your own pocket? Or contact the manufacture and demand a permanent fix?
As a side note the Rem 700 is the gun most mentioned in the thread "worst gun you ever owned" My opinion of remington is that they are over priced s**t. I used to think they were the best....then I bought one
What would you do if your brand new truck had a failure that led to you nearly wrapping it aground a pole? Fix the problem out of your own pocket? Or contact the manufacture and demand a permanent fix?
As a side note the Rem 700 is the gun most mentioned in the thread "worst gun you ever owned" My opinion of remington is that they are over priced s**t. I used to think they were the best....then I bought one
You don't. I have some rifles that you have to flick off the safety to unlock the bolt though, what if I was to flick it off out of habit? On a properly functioning rifle you shouldn't have to worry about the gun going bang.
Well an update. Spoke with the dealer and he said bring it in. I made a dummy round and have been flicking the safety on and off. The more I do it the less is fires. From almost 100% down to about 10% of the time. I still won't ever trust it.
As with most gunnutz the first thing I do is tear down the rifle and clean out all the packing grease. If I'm loading for the caliber the rifle happens to be in I make up a few dummy rounds to test the funtion. (cycling, feeding, firing and usually safety) I simply must have forgot to test the safety with this one, when you have several rifles it happens. It was bought BNIB from a large retail store. As for a video, I'd be glad to post one, just have to get my camera and rifle in the same place at the same time. (I keep my camera at my rental house in the city and my guns at my parents in the country)
personal_aviator
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Remmington Under Fire was the name of the show on television a week or so ago. There is no reason you should have to modify a trigger to make it work like it's ment to from the factory. If remmington's quality controll is that poor then something is definatly wrong. According to the show, there has been a few death's from this. Now you can easily say that if the rifle is pointed in a safe direction then nobody should get hurt, but pratically speaking, you may think your rifle is pointed in a safe direction but who knows if a kid or a partner is going to walk around the other side of your truck and step right out in front of you as your moving the safety from safe to fire. Remmington has known about this for years and should pay through the nose for it.
X2..
It's really not rocket surgery but shouldnt attempted by people who are afraid to use a screw driver (the same people who will pay a mechanic to change their windshield wiper blades).
Might as well add my $0.02 since everyone else has.
Yes the Sako is a nice rifle, I even own one, but the majority of my gun collection are Remingtons. Why? Because I like to tinker with them. Parts are easy to find, they're easy to take apart and I havent had one yet that I wasnt able to build a decent load for.
I think if you want to buy a gun and just leave it alone, go buy something else. The tikka's are nice and are excellent shooters. Even though you'd never catch me shooting or owning a Savage, they're supposed to be excellent shooters as well.
I'd rather have a safe full of remingtons i've tinkered with than a single german made mauser.
hear , hear,..I'll go $100 for blue,...$125 for stainless....and you can keep the barrels....I'm waiting for the price of used 700's to tank,...then I'll load up on them....
hear , hear,..I'll go $100 for blue,...$125 for stainless....and you can keep the barrels....I'm waiting for the price of used 700's to tank,...then I'll load up on them....
I will raise you and go $300 and $350..
don't want the dangerous trigger though..
I've lost count of the Remingtons I've owned (Rick too, I bet). Never had this issue with any of them. Do I think it's possible? Sure. I can mis-adjust the trigger/sear so that it happens, but that is not Remington's fault is it? In theory, you could end up with enough mis-match dimensionally of trigger group parts where this situation could occur, but that's where QC comes in. From what I saw of the documentary, I would say mis-adjusted triggers are the cause of the problem. - dan
I would have to agree with you. I also don't think this is an issue with the design, but instead with QC. That said this is one big QC issue if a stock trigger can be this dangerous.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You cannot tell me there are other non-Remington rifles that one can trifle with the trigger until it's too dangerous to use.
This is a seemingly rare event, and it appears to me, to be blown way way out of preportion by greedy lawyers and the koolaid drinking mass media.
This is a seemingly rare event, and it appears to me, to be blown way way out of preportion by greedy lawyers and the koolaid drinking mass media.
I posted this in the other thread and I'm going to put it here to. I'm not telling you guys this because of this news report, nor am I trying to incite some sort of Remington hating angry mob. I'm just telling you guys about a problem with my rifle.
Let me just state this. My firearm was brand new in box, bought at a large retail store. The trigger was never tinkered with and the firearm was degreased/cleaned before fired. It was also cleaned and oiled after every trip to the range.
The firearm has a serious safety issue, from the factory and with no user error.
Does every Remington have this issue? NO! I'm not even implying that many have this issue. I'm simply stating what happened with my rifle.
No I have not seen this news show, but as with most productions of that sort I'm sure it blows everything way out of proportion. Blowing this out of proportion is not what I'm trying to do, I'm just telling you guys what happened with my rifle.
Let me just state this. My firearm was brand new in box, bought at a large retail store. The trigger was never tinkered with and the firearm was degreased/cleaned before fired. It was also cleaned and oiled after every trip to the range.
The firearm has a serious safety issue, from the factory and with no user error.
Does every Remington have this issue? NO! I'm not even implying that many have this issue. I'm simply stating what happened with my rifle.
No I have not seen this news show, but as with most productions of that sort I'm sure it blows everything way out of proportion. Blowing this out of proportion is not what I'm trying to do, I'm just telling you guys what happened with my rifle.
