Possible CZ 858 reclassification?

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Can someone more reputable (like a dealer) who has access to the FRT please either confirm or deny that the above changes have been made and that the CZ858 2V,2P, and 4P are in fact officially classified as full autos and are now prohibited?
 
hawk-i said:
And yet we still have dealers recording the sale of NR rifles in their log books....how hard do you think they will fight to keep that info. from the MAN when the request to hand it over comes?
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I think the RCMP will be pushy enough to get their hands on the log books. I bought my CZ858 from a dealer so if they become prohib, I expect a call. If they will pay me for it, fine....they will get the stripped receiver. If they won't pay me for it then I'll probably dewat it and hang it on my wall as a symbol of the complete BS that is our firearm laws.
 
AlbertaGunslinger said:
Can someone more reputable (like a dealer) who has access to the FRT please either confirm or deny that the above changes have been made and that the CZ858 2V,2P, and 4P are in fact officially classified as full autos and are now prohibited?
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I would think that CZ 858 2 P and V have always been prohibited (automatic) and it is the CZ 858 2 and 4 (without the P ) that are available in Canada but I would like to hear for sure as well.
 
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Shrapnel said:
The Conservative government should reclassify the current RCMP firearms experts into the "fired" class and then replace them by police officers that more interested by catching real criminals instead of going after ordinary gun owners...
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LOL and too true.
 
If there is any planned court action from any of the importers or dealers , a comment from them could be a conflict of interest and detrimental to the outcome of a court challenge .
 
hawk-i said:
And yet we still have dealers recording the sale of NR rifles in their log books....how hard do you think they will fight to keep that info. from the MAN when the request to hand it over comes?
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All of the ones I've bought, and the several I have sold were through the EE after the registry was abolished. Good luck tracking them down.
 
"If" I had a non restricted CZ 858, there is no way for the government to know I own it. So there's nothing the really can do. I don't really see how the can take a fire arm from NR to prohib because the design was based on something that is prohib. Would all fire arms be eventually prohib? They all have a trigger!! And if I'm not mistaken, loaded and cocked, pull the trigger and it goes boom; for all handguns, shotgun and rifles.

RCMP and the CFO need to have some set of guidelines for making changes. It's getting very residulus. All they are doing is attempting to justify why they still have a job.
 
RCloud said:
I would think that CZ 858 2 P and V have always been prohibited (automatic) and it is the CZ 858 2 and 4 (without the P and V) that are available in Canada but I would like to hear for sure as well.
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Most of the Wolverine CZ858's that i have seen are stamped on the left side of the receiver CZ858 - 2 P . So if that picture of the FRT is right the 2P would have been NR at some point. 😞
 
Endernumberone said:
Most of the Wolverine CZ858's that i have seen are stamped on the left side of the receiver CZ858 - 2 P . So if that picture of the FRT is right the 2P would have been NR at some point. ��
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The CZ 848 4, I have seen are stamped V, the restricted models, so they look ok. I doubt the NR uses different parts with the exception of the barrels, so I can not see the restricted being good and the NR no good.
I think, I am becoming increasingly convinced that this is old info (not sure about the CZH 2003). The line in the report with regards to wanting more info. prior to Wolverine importing these rifles, speaks volumes imho.

‘More information of the firearm has been requested from the business prior to making a decision concerning the classification’. This was in the report previous to Wolverine importing.
 
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I hope it is all old info.

But all the Non Restricted CZ 858 - 2's i've seen are all stamped with a P or V. Which if that screen shot is current are classed as full auto now and were all purchased as non restricted.

Time will tell i guess.....
 
jimbo14 said:
I think the RCMP will be pushy enough to get their hands on the log books. I bought my CZ858 from a dealer so if they become prohib, I expect a call. If they will pay me for it, fine....they will get the stripped receiver. If they won't pay me for it then I'll probably dewat it and hang it on my wall as a symbol of the complete BS that is our firearm laws.
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I was going to dewat mine and put it on the grill of my truck, LOL and drive around with it.
 
I don't really buy this, the difference between CZ 858 Tactical 2 and Tactical P or V is a different stock, the P stands for infantry and it has a solid stock, the V stands for an air borne and that is the one with the metal folding stock. The original version also had 16" barrels or somewhere close to that dimension, the were rebarreled specifically for canadian market to conform NR standard, half the trigger mechanism gutted out and a steel block welded it all the way around, good luck converting that one to full auto.
 
Im pretty sure the RCMP has FRT #s on full auto version of guns we already have NR versions of, like the 858... those numbers are more than likely just the versions we were never allowed to have in the first place.
 
pavmentsurfer said:
Im pretty sure the RCMP has FRT #s on full auto version of guns we already have NR versions of, like the 858... those numbers are more than likely just the versions we were never allowed to have in the first place.
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I agree and think the same.
 
IMR4320 said:
I don't really buy this, the difference between CZ 858 Tactical 2 and Tactical P or V is a different stock, the P stands for infantry and it has a solid stock, the V stands for an air borne and that is the one with the metal folding stock. The original version also had 16" barrels or somewhere close to that dimension, the were rebarreled specifically for canadian market to conform NR standard, half the trigger mechanism gutted out and a steel block welded it all the way around, good luck converting that one to full auto.
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No offense but im curious if this is fact. If this is the case then the receivers were manufactured full auto - select fire - and were remanufactured into semi-auto only versions for the 'non restricted market' hence the welded block. To me it makes no difference if the receiver had a welded block or never had that area for the full auto parts machined to begin with because im not the type of person to try to make my firearms go full auto. these laws are so illogical.
 
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