CreamySmooth
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I think I just finished shooting about 1000 .40 out of my G20. Everything a-OK perfect.
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nice looking boolets, but curious about the gas check, do you even need it with the powder coat?
Went shooting today. Tested all 3 powders and 44, 45 and 46gr of varget all shot under 1.5" 3 shot groups at 100m and averaged 1420fps, 1440fps and 1475fps respectively. 46gr gave me a 1.34" so I'm done. That's perfect for what this gun is for for me.
46.7gr of 4064 averaged 1588fps and shoot 3.5" (that was the starting load, also had 47.4 and 48.1 loaded but didn't shoot them).
47gr benchmark starting load averaged 1710 fps and shot 1.6". Also had higher charges loaded but it wasn't pleasant to shoot at 47 already. Varget will do for me.
46.7gr of 4064 averaged 1588fps and shoot 3.5" (that was the starting load, also had 47.4 and 48.1 loaded but didn't shoot them).
47gr benchmark starting load averaged 1710 fps and shot 1.6". Also had higher charges loaded but it wasn't pleasant to shoot at 47 already. Varget will do for me.
Just order the tool blue from emeraldcoatings.com. Quick and easy right to your door (or community box as the case may be).
Auggie D.
Just out of curiosity - do the boolits have to be undersized? Does the PC add anything to the diameter of the bullet? If so, how much?
Also, would the stuff work on pure lead? This would be a great thing if you could get full expansion from a pure lead bullet at high(er) velocities. I could see myself using nothing but cast pure lead at max velocities in my 45-70 if I didn't have the #@$%@^^ leading issue.
Also, would the stuff work on pure lead? This would be a great thing if you could get full expansion from a pure lead bullet at high(er) velocities. I could see myself using nothing but cast pure lead at max velocities in my 45-70 if I didn't have the #@$%@^^ leading issue.
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Bullets are sized after powder coating, depending on powder used a single coat will add 2-4 thou which is no problem running it through a lee push through size die.
example, my 44mag mold drops them at .433 and after pc they will be .437
I then use a .433 lee push through size die (.430 honed to .433)
You can use pure lead, not sure whats speeds but castboolits and 300blktalk have some guys claiming pure lead with good results. I have only used ww with 45-70 pushing 405gr 1800fps with no leading in 1895gbl.
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Anything on Epoxy Coated bullets? I've been experimenting for a year now and have seen very few posts for the same coating. Easier to apply compared to Powder Coating, and cheaper. Very few posts even from Brian Enos Forum.
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I finally got to trying out the DT-ASBB method, everything went fine until I went to try sizing them, in a new Lee .410 pushthru, that sized them from.413 to .407. 320 gr, Lyman #2 water dropped,cast last Mon, coated on Sat. Cooked them at 375 for 20min. Paint stuck good, passed the smash test beautifully. The sizer did wipe some paint off, but, I'll hold off on judging that, because of the amount it got sized. It was a bit more than an effort to put them thru the sizer, I only did 3. The original notion was to knock about .002 down in size, not swage the freakin things.
So, next step is either go down to the machine shop and hone out that sizer, or clean out the Lyman and run them thru that. And go back to the shop i got that paint from, and find out what it actually is. May look around for a shellholder adaptor for the Coax as well, pushthru plunger wouldn't go in the jaws when I thought about trying it after the first bullet.
I like the DT method, put in a few too many pellets, had to do some digging to find boolits. Found that swirling them in the pellets, after picking them up and wiping paint off, recoated them. Tried them in two batches, first from a preheated oven, 15 min, then 5 extra for good measure, second from a cool oven, for 20min., paint seemed to be good either way. Non-stick tinfoil worked like a damn, no flash, no tinfoil gaschecks. Nice fat boolits were not inclined to fall over.
Twas an interesting experiment, to be tried some more yet. It is quick and simple. Have to work on the transfer from bowl to tray a bit, to figure out how or whether, to wipe powder off the noses or not.
Had a few shiny spots on noses, from handling them with my fingers, tried tweezers also, meh on the result on using them. dip fingers in powder , then p/u, seemed to work best.
So, next step is either go down to the machine shop and hone out that sizer, or clean out the Lyman and run them thru that. And go back to the shop i got that paint from, and find out what it actually is. May look around for a shellholder adaptor for the Coax as well, pushthru plunger wouldn't go in the jaws when I thought about trying it after the first bullet.
I like the DT method, put in a few too many pellets, had to do some digging to find boolits. Found that swirling them in the pellets, after picking them up and wiping paint off, recoated them. Tried them in two batches, first from a preheated oven, 15 min, then 5 extra for good measure, second from a cool oven, for 20min., paint seemed to be good either way. Non-stick tinfoil worked like a damn, no flash, no tinfoil gaschecks. Nice fat boolits were not inclined to fall over.
Twas an interesting experiment, to be tried some more yet. It is quick and simple. Have to work on the transfer from bowl to tray a bit, to figure out how or whether, to wipe powder off the noses or not.
Had a few shiny spots on noses, from handling them with my fingers, tried tweezers also, meh on the result on using them. dip fingers in powder , then p/u, seemed to work best.
Hey guys I'm a newb at this bullet casting and powder coating gig. Anyways my intentions are to load 9mm for range practice and ipsc this year. Max fps for my load is 1100fps ish. Will I need to put a gas check on my powder coated bullets at that fps. The world of reloading is a pretty cool rabbit hole lol
So I have researched powder coating to death. Mainly interested in PC for Marin 1894 in 357 and 44 mag. I am wondering if anyone has tried Princess Auto PC? Reason I am asking is emerald Coating wants $99 shipping for $11 PC. Seems a bit excessive no?
Wouldn't mind if I knew it would work out but ......
Wouldn't mind if I knew it would work out but ......
When you go to complete your order, you should get a screen that looks like this:
You can pick a shipping option that's more reasonable than the $99 placeholder thing.
I've powder coated for my 9.3x57 mm Mauser with great results, as well as for a 30-06. I do size the bullets before and after powder coating, and don't use gas checks. I've finished a batch of 6.5 bullets and have yet to take them to the range, but have high hopes for them too. I hope they work well enough in my CG63 because that's one fun target rifle to play with and I'd love to reduce the feeding costs.
I coat only the rear of the bullets up to past the "driving bands". It feeds much better in my 30-06. Here's what the 280 grain NOE cast 9.3mm bullets look like after the powder coating;
I coat only the rear of the bullets up to past the "driving bands". It feeds much better in my 30-06. Here's what the 280 grain NOE cast 9.3mm bullets look like after the powder coating;
