I think the OP wants the antique designation for bush carry, so we need to keep this thread on track.
Or is it a question about whether to even bother because no antique pistol will be effective?
Lov'in the bear defense thread!
Whether to bother.
Pre 1898 battle rifles considered antique?
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Whether to bother.
Definitively not an "antique". I recently bought a similar handgun, a reproduction 1851 Colt Navy cap and ball revolver and it falls into the restricted category. The Criminal Code defines an antique firearm as:
Any firearm manufactured before 1898 that was not designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition, and that has not been re-designed to discharge such ammunition, or
Any firearm prescribed to be an antique firearm.
You may want to do a quick search on the RCMP internet site using the key words "Antique Firearms" for more details... Alternatively, use this link: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/antique-historique-eng.htm
Any firearm manufactured before 1898 that was not designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition, and that has not been re-designed to discharge such ammunition, or
Any firearm prescribed to be an antique firearm.
You may want to do a quick search on the RCMP internet site using the key words "Antique Firearms" for more details... Alternatively, use this link: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/antique-historique-eng.htm
No..... Last "hail Mary" option at best.
I use a pair for Cowboy Action and they are most certainly not 'antique' status. I also have one made in 1867, by Colt and it is 'antique' status. The only gun I have that was newly made and yet is still considered 'antique', is my Pedersoli Kentucky Flintlock Rifle. There is a flowchart out there, unfortunately I can't find my copy, that does a great job of helping to 'wade' through the BS maze of the legislation and give you a definite answer. Anybody have a copy of it?
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Using a crew of 20 antique pistol shooters, you could gang-attack a grizzly or polar bear and likely stop him before he killed more than half of your team.
This dot is single> .
This dot is repeating> ....
The difference is that "single" means "1".
"Repeating" means more than "1".
A rifle with a magazine holds more than a single cartridge and is not a single shot (.), it is a repeater (....).
Lever guns with a magazine are repeating (....).
Lancaster made a four-barrelled Howdah pistol that had a selective application of fire. The barrels were arranged like a double stack side by side [or a double over and under]. Please look -
http://www.historicalfirearms.info/...aster-4-barrel-howdah-pistol-the-above-pistol
Others, commonly in civilian calibres up to .500BPE, were simple side-by-side and could shoot one or both barrels at the same time.
Basically, the idea behind them was to wait until the tiger had climbed far enough up the elephant to be within easy reach of you, at which point you fired as many barrels as you could muster at the time into the open mouth of the tiger.
It often worked.
A pal of mine, the late Walt Godfrey, had a pair of these prodigious pieces that had been made by Rhodda of Calcutta in .577 Snider - using the issue ball cartridge of 85gr of FFG underneath the 550gr lead bullet. Misunderstanding the instructions in the lid of the case, he cocked them 'AAF' and as a result set of both barrels at the same time.
Only did it once, though.
tac
PS - for tiger's mouth, replace with 'polar bear's mouth'.
http://www.historicalfirearms.info/...aster-4-barrel-howdah-pistol-the-above-pistol
Others, commonly in civilian calibres up to .500BPE, were simple side-by-side and could shoot one or both barrels at the same time.
Basically, the idea behind them was to wait until the tiger had climbed far enough up the elephant to be within easy reach of you, at which point you fired as many barrels as you could muster at the time into the open mouth of the tiger.
It often worked.
A pal of mine, the late Walt Godfrey, had a pair of these prodigious pieces that had been made by Rhodda of Calcutta in .577 Snider - using the issue ball cartridge of 85gr of FFG underneath the 550gr lead bullet. Misunderstanding the instructions in the lid of the case, he cocked them 'AAF' and as a result set of both barrels at the same time.
Only did it once, though.
tac
PS - for tiger's mouth, replace with 'polar bear's mouth'.
Not as sad as this: "it's just a hole that holds bullets..."
Not sure what's so sad about it? I've spent a lot of my life in the "bush" and never been attacked yet. I generally carry a rifle or shotgun with me, but have never had to use it, despite numerous encounters with bears, wolves, etc. Would I carry an antique - you bet. A lot of being "out there" and "isolated" is about feeling secure. Fear and panic kill.
A little reading and research on this site will answer all the questions you have about antiques and their capabilities. There are upsides and downsides to them. There are some that you can buy and shoot and there are some that still fall into the restricted class, no matter how old they are. There's no way to transform an antique into a S&W 629, and even it won't stop a charging polar bear. If you're going to be in a place where you can be charged, or attacked by a dangerous animal your best bet is to carry an appropriate modern firearm, and an antique isn't it
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