Press Check?
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Clobbersauras
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It's an administrative task performed to visually or physically verify there is a round in the chamber.
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What a pile of balony. If you dont know if you have a round in the chamber of your firearm, then sell it, cause you shouldnt have it. Thats retarded.
Wow, thanks for clearing that up for me. I never really considered you could actually tell an RO to stop talking and he'd just....you know....do it. I guess you can do that with the entire spectator gallery as well. Perhaps we can all just pick and choose who we have as RO's and spectators.
Man, you'd think that after almost 30 years in competition I would know some of this stuff but clearly I, and many others on the forum know nothing. Fortunately, we have you to enlighten us all on the one true way and the one true reality.
So true, we are indeed blessed. With that I will unsubscribe as once again the thread has become a podium. Or should I say "mount" ?
no doubt. what a pant load.
Clobbersauras
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You two have it exactly.
I've had my pistol go "click" one too many times. So now I press check, it's my routine. Sometimes you get distracted, #### happens, this simple check makes the "click" much less likely.
for you guys saying it's baloney I have a new question, if you were allowed to CC, or carried a gun for work and relied on it, would you press check? I am betting most of you would.
in my opinion, answering the original question though....
-shooting paper from the firing line? press check is a total waste of time and i'd feel silly doing it. (but IMO if you compete, or carry a gun, do it, just to keep up the habit)
-shooting timed competition? press check seems like a valid move while prepping for the run, losing time over a preventable "click" would kinda suck I think.
I don't press check as I don't compete or carry but I think the press check has it's place.
in my opinion, answering the original question though....
-shooting paper from the firing line? press check is a total waste of time and i'd feel silly doing it. (but IMO if you compete, or carry a gun, do it, just to keep up the habit)
-shooting timed competition? press check seems like a valid move while prepping for the run, losing time over a preventable "click" would kinda suck I think.
I don't press check as I don't compete or carry but I think the press check has it's place.
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Clobbersauras
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So let's break this down. Just because I need to understand your logic.
I'm guessing both of you have never been on the line and had your gun go "click" because you hadn't charged it?
The last time it happened to me was in the middle of an evolution on a course that required me to transition from my rifle to pistol. "CLICK!" I tap/racked, took my sight picture, and "CLICK" again....
I hadn't even loaded a mag in the pistol.
So yeah, a simple 2 second press check, performed as part of a routine done every time I step up to the line would have helped save me some embarrassment.
Now after my admin load I press check everything, Rifle, Pistol, or shotgun. It's become a habit that enures I don't gap out again. Just like confirming a firearm is unloaded before I handle it.
How this is a "pant load", or "retarded" is a mystery to me.
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lol, seems redundant to me.
When i step up to shoot at the range, i know the gun is loaded, since i just loaded the mag into it. i also know the guy who loads the ammo into the mags. great guy too.
buuut..... if thats what you need to do, fly atter. I dont play shooting games, so i guess it is not a required step for shooting paper.
When i step up to shoot at the range, i know the gun is loaded, since i just loaded the mag into it. i also know the guy who loads the ammo into the mags. great guy too.
buuut..... if thats what you need to do, fly atter. I dont play shooting games, so i guess it is not a required step for shooting paper.
To answer your question from the perspective of someone who carries for work.
No.
It's simple.
Learn the basic rules and follow them every day.
If You are following the rules there is no way to hit the road with empty chamber or leave the hot gun in the end of the day.
Ya, whatever rocks your boat. Seems reduntant to me too.
I have a hard time believing any LEO on this board that once he holsters his pistol at the beginning of shift, has to take it out half way through the day to do a "press check" to see if he remembered to load his pistol. If so, maybe its time to retire lol.
How can you forget to charge your pistol on the firing line? Dont they give you a command " Load and make ready"?? I mean dude, if thats what ya need to do, your not hurting anybody so go ahead, it just seems retarded to me.
If all you ever do with a gun is go to a range where you sit your gun on a table until someone tells you it's your turn to pick it up and use it...I can see why you'd never need to do a press check.
If that was all I ever got to do with a pistol, I'd have gotten rid of my pistols a long time ago.
I don't press check every time I'm about to do something...but if I'm about to do something where I'm really counting on the gun working immediately, why not check?
Every year, plenty of pilots, who have WAY more training time on flying in than I ever will on shooting, screw up something and crash. In order to reduce the likelihood of getting something wrong by accident, they use many redundant checks and both formal and informal checklists.
Anyone who thinks they CAN'T make a mistake about the status of their gun is being foolish. Thankfully for most of us, it's a non-issue. But if I'm about to run a course of fire and I care about the result, will I check the gun? Sure. I don't really care if people think that's stupid. I didn't get to be where I am by giving a damn whether others think I'm overly cautious.
Perfect thanks for sharing I've only ever shot with one LEO and when he was done shootin and holstered his pistol for "duty" he press checked it before doing so.
Glad to hear people who do carry chiming in though.
The idea isn't to do it throughout the shift for re assurance, you do it when you load and holster your pistol... Say when you get dressed in the morning. After that your good to go.
Like I said, I don't do it, but I can see where it could be used and whether you do it or not is your call, my opinion is based on what I "think" I'd do in each situation.
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I don't compete, but I still look for the label on my underwear to make sure I don't put them on backwards. A press check isn't any different. Some people have razor sharp memories and a press check isn't needed for them.
What do you do with your pistol that you cant remember if you chambered a live round or not? Give me a situation so i can understand you better.
That makes no sense, if he puts a loaded mag in his gun and racks the slide its loaded. He doesnt need to do a press check or whatever to be sure.
The question is not whether you remember, necessarily, it's whether you successfully did.
Here is an example of where you might want to check:
Run multi-day classes with a combined total of dozens of different timed drills including hundreds or thousands of rounds and therefore dozens or hundreds of reloads, including mid-field reloads, dropping mags in the mud and pouring rain, reloading those mags as quickly as possible to get back to the shooting while taking notes, photos, video or audio during breaks...
Now can you guarantee that in all of the times you dropped mags in the mud while shooting a 50-round drill five times in a monsoon, none of those mags malfunction in a manner that will slow down the slide enough on an admin reload that you might mistake it for the feel of a round chambering, even though that did not happen and the round stayed in the mag somehow? Of course not. Sure, it's unlikely...but maybe you're now up on a solo timed drill in front of a guy you paid $500 to watch you shoot and diagnose any flaws. You don't have to take an extra second to check, but I'm going to, because I don't want a very simple mistake make me look like some kind of range bubba simpleton. Does it HAVE to be a press check? No, of course not. If you have a LCI, fine. If you are totally confident in the rather subdued Glock LCI, fine. If you want to take out the mag and check the rounds like you would on an AR, fine. But I press check because that's what I'm most confident in. I can do it visually or with a finger in the ejection port. It works and I don't have to screw with the mag, which I have seen cause more malfunctions than the press check.
As far as guys who carry for work, not every professional shooter I have known is in the habit of doing them but thinking of the conversations I've had over the years I would say a clear majority were.
Of everyone I have known who shot people in the line of work, the majority I have spoken to on the subject have been inclined to do press-checks at the start of their day and often right before kicking a door in, whether on a high-risk entry as a cop, or in Fallujah, or whatever. Sure, they're pretty confident they loaded the gun correctly...but man, you get that wrong once and that could be the end of your life.
Now if you're just some guy who leaves a gun on a table on a static range until it's time to shoot, I don't see the point. But I just don't do that and I have yet to experience any disadvantage to checking prior to any timed or scored or just plain important to me stuff I was about to do.
